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Friday, August 02, 2019 11:52:49 AM
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I love the X-Men. They were one of the first comics I started reading. I started collecting them in Jr. High. Eventually, though, I gave up. Grant Morrison, New X-Men, Cyclops cheating on Jean, Necrosha... it just got worse and worse to the point I gave up. I've kept tabs on them for a few years, but haven't read them regularly (or at all, really).

But I checked out House of X #1 and Powers of X #1 over the last two weeks, and for the first time in a long time, I'm excited about the X-Men. Hickman has done a stellar job on these first two issues in my opinion. I'm especially intrigued by Powers - I like the multiple timeframe motif they're employing. And I'm looking forward to the new line of books that will be launching after House/Powers are done.

Have you read House of X #1 / Powers of X #1? What are your thoughts on the books and the future of the X-Men?
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Friday, August 02, 2019 8:36:21 PM
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House of X

This is good. It is VERY Hickman. Not so sure it's very X-Men yet though. It will come down to whether or not he sticks the landing, which, for me, he historically hasn't at Marvel.

Also, not a big fan of these "everything is different" stories that ignores what came immediately before. Except Jean Grey's outfit. That last one was an abomination that should be purged from memory.


Power of X

This is not very good. There's no actual story in this issue, just four "Meanwhile..." style drop-ins on time periods that aren't now. And while I usually love a future X-Men story, these are unnecessarily convoluted and in no way held my interest.

Art was nice though.
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I know Hickman's style isn't for me. He's a great idea generator and sometimes the journey is very interesting (see House of X), but I find he doesn't actually know how to bring all the ideas to a satisfying conclusion (at least with his Marvel stuff).

But, this issue specifically? This was just bad pieces of information, none of which make a coherent story (and I hated the Nimrod sequence), and at $6 and 45 pages, that's not cool.
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Art was definitely not "special" but it was nice. Some of the facial expressions were very good (although seemed like they may have been lightboxed/photo referenced a bit too much). I liked that aspect better than Larraz's work in HoX, but he had more interesting backgrounds and costuming details.
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Friday, August 02, 2019 8:40:44 PM
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I'm like you. Been reading X-Men since I was a kid. Powered through a lit of stuff I didn't like (including Morrison) but keep sticking with it. Well, at least Uncanny.

My biggest problem here is I'm a Hickman skeptic coming in. I genuinely enjoyed HoX but it's Hickman's X-Men, not Marvel's. At least so far.
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Friday, August 02, 2019 9:01:22 PM
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SwiftMann wrote:
Power of X

This is not very good. There's no actual story in this issue, just four "Meanwhile..." style drop-ins on time periods that aren't now. And while I usually love a future X-Men story, these are unnecessarily convoluted and in no way held my interest.

I'm totally the opposite on this. I love this style of storytelling. I look forward to seeing how these four timelines tie together. It's like solving a mystery or putting together a puzzle. Completely held my interest.

SwiftMann wrote:
My biggest problem here is I'm a Hickman skeptic coming in.

I am not burdened in this regard, thankfully.

SwiftMann wrote:
I genuinely enjoyed HoX but it's Hickman's X-Men, not Marvel's. At least so far.

Two semi-conflicting thoughs: 1) This doesn't bother me so much. Marvel's X-Men for the last few years have been junk, IMO. Let it be Hickman's. Reset and move on. 2) This feel like what the X-Men were heading for way back before the wheels fell off for me, so I feel like it is true to Marvel's X-Men.
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Saturday, August 03, 2019 11:59:04 PM
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Since my mom collects X-Men and got this, I figured I'd go ahead and read HOX and POX. (Disclaimer, I haven't read anything more current in X-Men since... maybe the mid-2000's, though I've heard secondhand some of the goings on.)

I moderately enjoyed HOX and definitely more than POX, I'll echo the previous sentiment that POX feels like "meanwhile".

I also looked up other stuff that Hickman has wrote to see what I've read of his and the only thing I've read of his was Secret Wars... and boy, did I hate that.

So I'm definitely in the camp of not liking Hickman's writing at all. And all the reasons why I didn't like Secret Wars, I see popping up in HOX and POX so far. The foremost of which he starts the story off with something completely unfamiliar with no context and then trickles out reveals for the entire series. That's great and all... but in my experience (with other stuff, but especially Secret Wars) is that at the end of there are so many questions that end up completely unanswered, simply because they were never intended to be answered in the first place (they aren't important questions, but I had no way of knowing that at the start, so I get invested in the questions only to find out they were meaningless... which annoys me.)

On a slight side note, Marvel was making a big deal with characters commenting on the missing 8 months that Secret Wars took place. Did any title actually take any time to resolve that or did all the characters just stop caring they couldn't remembering anything over an 8 month period?
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Wednesday, August 07, 2019 1:55:09 PM
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House of X #2 is super trippy! I loved it.
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Friday, August 09, 2019 11:21:03 AM
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#2 is good. It's Goundhog Day on a longer scale, but it's good.

That said, Hickman has gotten $15 out of us for 135 pages and has yet to actually tell any particular story or adventure. It's all been background info table setting.
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Friday, August 09, 2019 2:11:07 PM
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SwiftMann wrote:
#2 is good. It's Goundhog Day on a longer scale, but it's good.

That said, Hickman has gotten $15 out of us for 135 pages and has yet to actually tell any particular story or adventure. It's all been background info table setting.


Glad you liked it. You're absolutely right about it being background. It feels very much like that to me. Obviously, House/Powers are leading up to a relaunch of the entire X line of books.
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Friday, August 09, 2019 2:52:18 PM
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padreglcc wrote:
Glad you liked it. You're absolutely right about it being background. It feels very much like that to me. Obviously, House/Powers are leading up to a relaunch of the entire X line of books.

And I'm pre-ordering every one of them based on creative team and/or characters (and see which fall off). But this style of writing is one of my frustrations with Hickman. He did something similar with SHIELD. I read 6 or 8 issues of that. Individually interesting, but nothing ever went anywhere. Same with his Fantastic Four run, but I read dozens of issues of that with no payoff. Too much seeding with no harvest.
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PoX #2 - I liked the past. I liked the present, except Hickman writes Cyclops so out of character I wondered if Silva drew the wrong person. I don't like anything about either future storyline.
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