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conan #1(1st conan in comics)
conan #23(1st red sonja,1st kull)
savage tales #1(1st conan,1st man thing) magazine
showcase #4 (1st flash in the silver age)
marvel comics#1(1st sub mariner,1st human torch,1st kazar)
iron fist #14 ( 1st sabertooth)
wolverine #1 mini series (1st wolverine in a series)
superman #1(1st superman in own series)

marvel super heroes and secret wars #8 (1st symbiote suit)
tomb of dracula #10 (1st blade)
marvel spotlight #28(moon knight app.)
adventures into fear#10 (1st man thing)
man thing #1 (1st man thing in own series)

Sorry if I'm being too technical, but I believe that, technically, Incredible Hulk #180 was the first appearance of Wolverine (it was a one-panel cameo on the last page), and Incredible Hulk #181 is typically valued as being the 1st full appearance of Wolverine.

What about chronologicaly?

70's

1970
04/70 Green Lantern / Green Arrow #76
06/70 Detective #400 - 1st Man-Bat
10/70 Conan #1
11/70 Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen #134 - 1st New Gods
1971
02/71 New Gods #1
02/71 Forever People #1
03/71 Mister Miracle #1
05/71 Spider-Man #96 - Drug issue
06/71 House of Secrets #92 - 1st Swamp Thing
07/71 Batman #232 - 1st ra's Al Guhl
09/71 Batman #234 - 1st Two Face
10/71 Spider-Man #101 - 1st Morbious
11/71 Marvel Feature #1 - 1st Defenders
12/71 Marvel spotlight #2 - 1st Werewolf by Night
1972
3/72 Tomb of Dracula #1
04/72 Marvel Premiere #1 - 1st Warlock
05/72 Hero for Hire #1 - 1st Luke Cage
07/72 Defenders #1
08/72 Marvel Spotlight #5 - 1st Ghost Rider
08/72 Warlock #1
08/72 Demon #1
08/72 Werewolf by Night #1
09/72 Fear #10 - 1st Manthing
10/72 Swampthing #1
11/72 The Cat #1
12/72 Monster of Frankenstein #1
1973
1/73 Tomb of Dracula #10 - 1st Blade
02/73 Secret Origins #1
02/73 Iron Man #55 - 1st Thanos
02/73 Captain Marvel #25 - 1st Starlin on title
05/73 Spider-Man #121 - death of Gwen Stacy
06/73 Adventure #428 - 1st Black Orchide
08/73 Ghost Rider #1
09/73 Plop #1
09/73 Shadow #1
10/73 Marvel Spotlight #12 - 1st Son of Satan
11/73 Special Marvel Edition #15 - 1st Master of Kung Fu
12/73 Adventure #431 - 1st Spectre on title
12/73 Man-Thing #1
1974
01/74 Spider-Man #129 - 1st Punisher
03/74 Star Reach #1 first independent publisher
04/74 Marvel Premiere #15 - 1st Iron Fist
05/74 Doctor Strange #1
06/74 Famous First Editions
07/74 Astonishing Tales #25 - 1st DeathLok
10/74 Hulk #181 - 1st Wolverine
1975
04/75 Joker #1
05/75 Giant Size X-Men #1 - 1st new X-Men
06/75 Giant Size Invaders #1
07/75 X-Men #94
08/75 Invaders #1
08/75 Werewolf by Night #32 - 1st Moon Knight
08/75 Super-Villian team up #1
09/75 Inhumans #1
10/75 Champions #1
11/75 Son of Satan #1
11/75 Iron Fist #1
12/75 All-Star Comics #58 - 1st modern JSA title
1976
1/76 Howard the Duck #1
01/76 Black Goliath #1
03/76 Daredevil #131 1st Bullseye
03/76 Freedom Fighters #1
05/76 Secret Society of Super Villians #1
06/76 Maarvel Spotlight #28 - 1st solo Moon Knight
07/76 Eternals #1
12/76 Spectacular Spider-Man #1
1977
01/77 Ms. Marvel #1
01/77 Black Panther #1
07/77 Star Wars #1
08/77 Iron Fist #14 - 1st Sabertooth
10/77 X-Men #108 - 1st Byrne on title
12/77 Cerebus #1
1978
04/78 Fantasy Quarterly #1 - 1st Elf Quest
1979
04/79 Spider Woman #1
05/79 Daredevil #158 - 1st Miller
04/79 Elfquest #1

the fact that this thread is alive after so long should be noted, however futile it is to try to track things this way.

CCL should gather some concensus on what are the important keys

1st appearance of...

origin of...

new costume for...

I don't think 'death of' is important as everybody seems to get un-dead after an appropriate rise in their marketability.

But, really folks, there are THOUSANDS of keys, most of them not interesting to you and I. But the ones that each of us think ARE important vary from person to person, and it should be a searchable item. This is a database, after all.

C'mon, CCL, whiteboard this item, wonchaplease?

This is a totally subjective thread.

The BIG KEYS are are destined to remain on the permanent want list and we all know what they are; each of us looking for that miracle yardsale. Otherwise these books will allways be beyond the means of the Avg collector.

I think you have to looks individually at keys that interest YOU.
Like take Mr Warlock for example... He might be thrilled /interested/ delighted /envious (any number of things, really) if I were to tell him that a buddy of mine just assembled ALL of the Warlock silver/bronze age appearances of this charater. Others of you could care less.

Not that thats bad... just a reflection of different interests.
I have TTA -Hulk all the issues thru that HUGE run except for 22 books. Its taken a while to assemble. Lots of effort lots of time and cash. My same bud that loves Warlock respects the endeavor, but Hulk isnt his thing. not the end of the world...

But keys. Maybe an Avengers annl 10 is quite meaningful to an x-fan. but less so to a Green lanter fan..

Hard to say. Its AWFULLY subjective

A searchable database of keys would be very useful for those of us that are only casually into comics or newbies. Having a set list with metadata within the CCL database possibly tied into a sub-unit of the local software Wishlist area would be really neat. To be able to just "ask" / search in this "Keys" subunit for a characters 1st, death, marriage, having kids, etc... and have the hits (books, issues info) returned would be really great.

Could the Keys list be taken care of with the Change request system so it's user filled?

BTW Yes Hulk 180 does have the cameo of Wolverine in the back of the book. 181 is the first issues with him fully featured.

Early 80's key comics

1980
3/80 Daredevil#168 1st Electra
10/80 DC Presents #26 1st Teen Titans
11/80 New Teen Titans #1
11/80 Moon Knight #1
1981
6/81 Nexus #1 black and white
6/81 Avengers Annual #10 (1st Rouge)
7/81 Flaming Carrot Comics #1
1982
1/82 Marvel Graphic Novel #1 "Death of Captain Marvel"
2/82 Marvel & DC presents "X-Men & Teen Titans"
3/82 Marvel Fanfare #1
4/82 Star Slayer #2 (1st Rocketeer)
6/82 Marvel Contest of Champions #1
6/82 GI Joe #1
7/82 Love and Rockets #1
9/82 Wolverine #1
12/82 Camelot 3000 #1
1983
1/83 Nexus vol. 2 #1
1/83 Official Marvel Universe #1
2/83 Thor #337 1st Simonson
3/83 New Mutants #1
3/83 Batman #357 1st Jason Todd
3/83 Grandel #1
3/83 Amazing Spider-Man #238, 1st Hobgoblin
6/83 Jon Sable Freelance #1
7/83 Ronin #1 Miller
8/83 Alpha Flight #1
9/83 Atom #1
10/83 American Flagg #1
1984
1/84 Teen-age Mutant Ninja Turtles #1
2/84 Swamp Thing #21 Alan Moore
2/84 Mage #1
4/84 Zot! #1
5/84 Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #1
5/84 Flaming Carrot #1
9/84 West Coast Avengers #1 mini
12/84 Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #8 1st black Spidey suit
1985
3/85 Groo the Wanderer #1
3/85 DC's Who's Who #1
4/85 Crisis on Infinite Earths #1
8/85 Miracleman #1 Moore
8/85 Elf Quest #1 Epic comics
12/85 Marvel Universe #1 vol 2

1986
1/86 Daredevil #226 Born Again by Miller & Mazzucchelli
1/86 Punisher limited series #1 Zeck
2/86 X-Factor #1
3/86 Dark Knight Returns #1 Frank Miller
6/86 Man of Steel #1 Byrne
7/86 Dark Hoarse Presents #1 1st Concrete, Chadwick
8/86 Watchmen #1 Moore, Gibbons
8/86 Superman #423, the Last Superman Story Alan Moore
8/86 Action Comics #583, the Last Superman Story Alan Moore
10/86 Reid Fleming, Worlds Toughest Milk Man #1
11/86 Legends #1 Byrne
11/86 Avengers #273, Masters of Evil IV Stern ,Buscema
1987
1/87 Superman #1 Byrne
2/87 Batman #404 Year One by Miller
2/87 Wonder Woman #1 Perez
4/87 Hulk #330 1st McFarlane
5/87 Justus League #1 Giffen, Meguire
5/87 Suicide Squade #1
6/87 Robot Comics #1 Bob Burden
7/87 Punisher #1
7/87 Silver Surfer #1 M. Rogers
7/87 Gumby Summer Fun Special #1 Burden, Adams
10/87 Doom Patrol #1 Morrison
10/87 Eight Ball #1 Clowes
1988
1/88 the Killing Joke Moore, Bolland
1/88 Hellblazer #1 Constantine
4/88 Dark Horse Presents #10 1st Mask
5/88 Amazing Spider-Man #300 McFarlane
8/88 V for Vendetta #1 Moore, Lloyd
8/88 Marvel Comics Presents #1 Wolverine +
8/88 Animal Man #1 Grant Morrison
11/88 Wolverine #1
12/88 Silver Surfer, Parable #1 Lee, Mobious
1989
1/89 Sandman #1 Neil Gaiman
1/89 Arkham Asylum Grant Morrison, McKean
2/89 Hawkworld #1 Tim Truman
3/89 Batman #426 Death in the Family
5/89 X-Men #245 1st Rob Liefeld
7/89 Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #1 vol. 3
8/89 X-Men #248 1st Jim Lee

what about Amazing Spider-man #238(1st Hobgoblin)-1983

I fixed it! Thanks a lot.
If you see anything else, let me know and I'll add it.

thomas I'm very impressed with your chronological list are you going to do 60s and 90s as well?

By the way 4/70 green lantern/green arrow is issue #76 neal adams drug issue

1990
3/90 New Mutants #87 1st Cable, Liefeld
4/90 Hate #1 Peter Bagg
5/90 Ghost Rider v. 2, #1
6/90 Books of Magic #1 Gaiman
8/90 Spider-Man #1 McFarlane
1991
3/91 Milk and Cheese #1
4/91 Dark Horse Presents, Fifth Ann. Spec., Sin City, pt. 1,Miller
5/91 Magnus, Robot Fighter #1
6/91 From Hell #1 Alan Moore
7/91 Bone #1 Smith
8/91 I Lusipher #1
8/91 X-Force #1
9/91 Solar, Man of the Atom #1 B. W. Smith
10/91 X-Men #1 Jim Lee
1992
1/92 Harbinger #1
2/92 X-O Manowar #1 B. W. Smith
2/92 Batman #492 Knightfall p. 1
3/92 Rai #1
3/92 Madman #1 Allred
5/92 Spawn #1 McFarlane
8/92 WildC.A.T.S., covert action teams Jim Lee
8/92 Justice Society #1
10/92 Batman Adventures #1 based on animated show
12/92 Spectre #1 Ostrander
1993
1/93 Hulk: Future imperfect #1 David, Perez
3/93 Death: the high cost of living #1 Gaiman
4/93 1963 #1 Alan Moore
6/93 the Golden Age #1 Robinson, Smith
11/93 Strangers in Paradise #1 Terry Moore
12/93 John Byrne's Next Men #21 1st Hellboy
1994
1/94 Marvels #1 Busiek, Ross
2/94 Scud: the Disposable Assassin #1
2/94 Gen 13 #1 Jim Lee
3/94 Hellboy, Seeds of Destruction #1 Mignola 5/94 Books of Magic #1 reg. series
6/94 Youngblood #1 Liefeld
9/94 Invisibles #1 Morrison
9/94 Zero Hour #4
9/94 Deadpool #1
10/94 Starman #0 Robinson, Harris

ask and you shall recieve

Yes, I would like to do from 1948, Action Comics #1, to present.
I find them quite interesting in seeing the history of comics, and trends of the day.

I'm afraid I don't understand. Isn't #76 the first GL/GA team-up?

yes,but does'nt green arrows nephew gets involved in drugs,also a racial issue where they speak to a bum who is black.

late 1990's

1995

3/95 X-Man #1
4/95 Preacher #1 Ennis scripts
4/95 Optic Nerve #1 Adrian Tomine
6/95 Stray Bullets #1 David Lapham
8/95 Kurt Busiek's Astro City #1 Anderson, Ross cover
11/95 Last Avengers Story Peter David
11/95 Witchblade #1 Mike Turner
1996
1/96 Kingdom Come #1 Waid, Ross
4/96 Death: the time of your life #1 Gaiman
5/96 Hitman #1 Ennis
6/96 Hellboy, Wake the Devil #1
8/96 Onslaught: X-Men
10/96 Onslaught: Marvel
11/96 the Avengers #1, Heroes Reborn Liefeld
1997
1/97 JLA #1 Morrison, Porter
1/97 Deadpool #1
2/97 Onslaught: Epilogue
9/97 Zombie World Mignola
11/97 Thunderbolts #1 Busiek
12/97 Heroes Reborn, the Return #1 Peter David
1998
2/98 Avengers #1 Busiek, Perez
5/98 300 #1 Miller
6/98 Superman for all seasons #1 Loeb, Sale
11/98 Daredevil v. 2, #1 Kevin Smith
12/98 Avengers Forever #1 Busiek, Pacheco
1999
3/99 League of Extraordinary Gentlemen #1 Moore, O'Neill
4/99 Planetary #1 Ellis, Cassaday
5/99 the Authority #1 Ellis, Hitch
6/99 Tom Strong #1 Moore, Sprouse
8/99 Promethea #1 Moore, Williams III
8/99 JSA #1 Robinson
8/99 100 Bullets #1 Azzarello
9/99 Top Ten #1 Moore, Gene Ha
10/99 Tomorrow Stories #1 Alan Moore

Key issues of 2000

2000
6/00 Powers #1 Bendis, Oeming
6/00 Scion
7/00 Marvel Knights #1
10/00 Ultimate Spider-Man #1 Bendis, Bagley
11/00 Midnight Nation
2001
2/01 Ultimate X-Men #1 Millar, Adam Kubert
4/01 Green Arrow #1 Kevin Smith
7/01 Sojourn / Crossgen
8/01 Daredevil: Yellow #1 Loeb, Sale
8/01 Ghost Rider vol. 3 #1
9/01 Amazing Spider-Man #36 9/11
11/01 Dark Knight Strikes Again #1 Miller
2002
3/02 Ultimates #1 Millar, Hitch
5/02 Hawkman #1 Johns, Morales
6/02 Captain America vol. 4 #1 Cassaday
6/02 X-Factor v. 2 #1
7/02 Fables #1 Willingham, Medina
9/02 Y: the last man #1 Vaughan, Guerra
12/02 Batman #608 Leob/Jim Lee, Hush
2003
7/03 Goon
8/03 Outsiders #1 Winick
9/03 JLA / Avengers #1 Busiek, Perez
9/03 Teen Titans #1 Johns
10/03 Walking Dead #1 Kirkman, T. Moore
11/03 Marvel 1692 #1 Gaiman
11/03 Supreme Power #1 Straczynski, Frank
11/03 Superman/Batman #1 Leob, McGuinness
12/03 Wanted #1 Millar
12/03 Hulk, Grey Leob, Sale
2004
2/04 Ultimate Fantastic Four Bendis, Millar, Kubert
3/04 Punisher Max #1 Ennis, Larosa
7/04 Astonishing X-Men #1 Wheedon, Cassaday
8/04 Identity Crisis
9/04 Avengers #500 Disassembled Bendis, Finch
9/04 Loki
12/04 Green Lanten, Rebirth
2005
1/05 the New Avengers #1 Bendis,
5/05 Captain America vol. 5 #1 Brubaker, Epting
5/05 Young Avengers #1
8/05 House of M #1
9/05 All-Star Batman #1
10/05 Justice #1 Ross
10/05 Fell #1
12/05 Infinite Crisis #1 Jim Lee
2006
1/06 Marvel Zombies #1
1/06 All-Star Superman #1
4/06 Hulk #92 Planet Hulk
5/06 52
5/06 Avengers , Illuminatie vol. 1 #1
7/06 Civil War #1
8/06 Green Lanten corp. #1
2007
1/07 the Immortal Iron Fist #1 Brubaker, Aja
2/07 Avengers Illuminatie vol. 2 #1
4/07 Captain America #25 Death of S. Rogers
5/07 Mighty Avengers #1
6/07 Avengers Initiative #1
7/07 Green Lantern #21 Sinestro corp. War
7/07 Silver Surfer, Requiem #1
8/07 World War Hulk #1
10/07 Booster Gold #1
2008