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			<description><![CDATA[Below are a list of CCL approved terms to be used when making Change Requests or additions to the database. This list will be added to as needed, but not until the Approvers and CCL have had time to discuss the new additions. Suggestions are welcome.

[b][color=blue][size=7]COMICS-MAGAZINES-TRADES-HARD COVERS TERMINOLOGY[/size][/color][/b]

[color=red]Terms used by publishers to describe their variants (such as Auxiliary) would be used as [b]Auxiliary Cover[/b], however words like Exclusive, Limited and Variant should be avoided except in the case of Price Variants. Publisher designations of A, B, C are not used because CCL establishes it's own lettering as books are entered in the database.[/color]

[b]Standard Cover[/b] used to differentiate between the regular comic and the Variants. Should only be used on books with Variants

[b]20 Cent Price Cover[/b] used for cover price variants

[b]Whitman Cover[/b] used for Whitman logo variants

[b]UK Price Cover[/b] used for items priced in Pence or other British prices

[b]Orange Logo (2nd Printing)[/b] used for later printings whose only change is the color of the logo.

[b]Alex Ross 1:10 Cover[/b] used for incentive variants

[b]Frank Quitely "Right Side" Cover[/b] used for covers that form a larger picture when combined

[b]Wraparound Cover[/b] used for covers that continue around to the back cover

[b]Gatefold Cover[/b] used for covers that fold out to form a larger picture

[b]Cardstock Cover[/b] used for covers that are printed on a thicker cardboard type paper

[b]Die-cut Cover[/b] used for covers that have designed cut-outs

[b]Sketch Cover[/b] used to describe covers drawn in rough pencils as opposed to finished inks

[b]Photo Cover[/b] used for covers that have a photograph as all or part of the cover

[b]Acetate Overlay[/b] used for covers with a secondary plastic cover designed to change or hide parts of the original cover

[b]Hologram Cover[/b] used for covers with a hologram attached to the cover

[b]Newsstand Edition/Price Variant[/b] used for newsstand books that are priced differently than the direct market copy

[b]Dynamic Forces Edition (Signed by Alex Ross) 1/1000[/b] used for limited variants published by recognized companies

[b]Mini Comic[/b] used for comics sized at half a normal comic or smaller, usually about the size of a dollar bill

[b]Oversized Treasury[/b] used for newspaper sized comics

[b]Digest Sized[/b] used for smaller thicker comics

[b]Embossed Cover[/b] used for a comic with a pattern or shape pressed into the cover

[b]Foil Cover[/b] used for covers with a thin metallic foil stamped on them. A descriptive term (Chromium, Prism, Gold etc) may be added in front of the word Foil

[b]Lenticular Cover[/b] used for covers that have a rigid plastic attached with an image that appears to move when held at different angles

[b]3-D Cover[/b] used for covers that when viewed with special glasses appear to be in 3-D

[b]Dust Jacket [/b] used for books with a removable outer cover

[b]Virgin Cover[/b] used for covers with no Logo, writing or price on the cover

[b]Flipbook[/b] used for books with an alternate cover on the back

[b]Prestige Format[/b] a comic with a higher grade paper stock, square bound and using glue instead of staples.

[b]Black and White Cover[/b] a cover with no color that is fully inked, unlike a sketch cover that has not been inked.

[b]Black and White Edition[/b] a comic that is released in black and white in addition to a color version 

[b]Polybagged[/b] a sealed factory bagged comic. If the book comes with a promotional item in the bag it should be mentioned. For example: Polybagged with Trading Card

[b]Unbagged[/b] a comic that originally came Polybagged but has since been removed from the bag

[b]2007 Wizard World Texas Cover[/b] used to describe a variant given away at a comic convention

[color=red]Special note on abbreviations: Abbreviations should only be used if there's not enough room to spell out the entire word. For example use Dynamic Forces before using DF. Use with before using w/. The same holds true for vs, &, or etc. If you need to abbreviate due to limited space you may do so, but it should only be done if there's no other option.[/color]


[color=blue][b][size=7]ACTION FIGURE TERMINOLOGY[/size][/b][/color]

[b]Clark Kent (Mailaway)[/b] used for incentive figures available only through the mail

[b]Wolverine and Doop (2-Pack)[/b] used for action figures packed more than one per pack

[b]9 Piece Build-a-Figure[/b] used for figures that are built by assembling pieces from different packages


[u]For Variants of the same figure:[/u]

[b]Spider-Man (Black Costume)

Spider-Man (Red Costume)[/b]


[u]For Non-Us Packaging[/u]

[b]Sandman (Canada)

Sandman (UK)[/b]


[u]For Action Figures of a character that has had multiple people wear the mantle:[/u]

[b]Robin (Dick Grayson)

Robin (Tim Drake)[/b]


[b][color=blue][size=7]TRADING CARD TERMINOLOGY[/size][/color][/b]


[b][Color/Description] Foil[/b] - Any card with a foil. Typical colors include Gold, Silver, Bronze and Rainbow for when it is multiple colored. Etched, Mirrored, Refractor, or Chromium are examples of descriptions.

[b]Hologram[/b] - Any card with a holographic image as a main item, not as a authenticity mark on the reverse of the card (i.e. Upper Deck cards, where the UD logo is a hologram)

[b]Lenticular[/b] - Cards with a lenticular lens and when viewed at different angles, create a "motion" effect.

[b](Animation) Cel[/b] - Plastic cards that provide a see-thru portion (all or some) of the card. Some may be reproductions of Animation cels from animated cartoons or movies. 

[b]Die-Cut[/b] – Card has either holes cut in it or is cut in a shape other than a standard card.

[b]Case Topper/Case Loader[/b] – Card is included with the purchase of a case of cards. Topper is preferred and Loader should be used if the item reflects that, either printed on item, or by checklist/advert produced by manufacturer.

[b]Box Topper/Box Loader[/b] – Card is included with the purchase of a box of cards. Topper is preferred and Loader should be used if the item reflects that, either printed on item, or by checklist/advert produced by manufacturer.

[b]Parallel[/b] - May have description of color or type in front of the term Parallel. Cards are exact images of the standard set/subset, but have an addition to them. They may have a foil stamp on them, be numbered, or be a different color foil. Examples are: First Day of Issue Parallel, Blue Foil Parallel, Refractor Chromium Foil Parallel.
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			<description><![CDATA[Also, when you get the chance, I requested a ruling on something really close to this in the [url=http://www.comiccollectorlive.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=14705]"Need Rulings or Clarifications? Ask Here"[/url] thread, if you could look at my post, bring what you think is right over here, and start the conversation on it.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[b][size=6]Highlights of the Discussion, So Far...[/size][/b]

[quote=comicscastle]
[quote=ntkeith]When the final rules are made on this, there needs to be a system of when the elements combine on the same comic.
I think the order of the elements [(Unique Publisher) (Artist) (Variant Availability) (Cover Type) Cover (Limited Print Run)] are just as important for standardization.[/quote]

Good point. Once these have been out here for a while and added to and adjusted as needed we can take that up. I still need to get Card specific terms and Original Art specific terms added to the list before we tackle the next step.
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[quote=comicscastle]
[quote=vacantpassenger]What happened to "Chromium" and "Acetate Overlay"s?[/quote]

No one mentioned them when we discussed this in the Approvers lounge. Chromium would be include under "Foil Cover" it doesn't matter what metal the foil is. In fact prism covers would fall under that listing as well. Acetate Overlay has now been added. Thanks.[/quote]


[quote=comicscastle][quote=scotteaves]Nice list.  great to have this to refer to.  thanks Pat!

Question about Foil Covers - is it expected to have some sort of description added like Gold, Silver, Platinum, Prism, or Chromium in front of "Foil Cover"? 

Since there are issues with multiple types of foil covers I would think this is necessary.[/quote]

I would say it's only needed on issues that have more than one foil cover variant. Beyond that there's no real reason to say Gold Foil if it's the only one, however I don't believe that has been established as a hard rule.

Keep in mind most of these are samples of terminology types and can be adjusted to the actual book. Barbie #1 came polybagged with a door knocker or a "Pink Card" credit card but it isn't necessary to put those on the list because other examples are listed.[/quote]


[quote=Batman007]The only reason I would specify what color foil we're dealing with is to make sure you know what you're getting.  Sometimes the image doesn't properly capture the Red Foil and it comes off looking black and Non-Foil.  Other times, people assume that a Foil Edition is one color as most Variants in a series that get the foil treatment are that color, but then all of a sudden, the color gets changed for a particular issue.  Take Dynamite's Red Sonja, for example.  They started making Ruby Red Foil Covers for many of the early issues and then all of a sudden they made a Gold one here and a Silver one there.  The kicker was their website still listed these as Ruby Red Foil Covers out of sheer habit and probably because the information was put up in the planning stages of said issue but never updated to reflect the true nature of the Variant.  Some of the issues don't have Red Foil treatments despite what the website says.  As well, Dynamite always uses stock images as do most publisher websites (Dynamic Forces is the worst, they barely use the proper art).

So for these reasons, it just helps to clarify things for potential buyers, sellers and collectors and insures that what is listed actually exists as it is listed.[/quote]


[quote=ntkeith]Let's not forget the main reason this is here, to identify versions.  The description should be enough on it's own to identify any comic away from variants, because some people work off of lists and not the site/software.  I'm not saying those who don't subscribe, but when I travel to a shop, I take the saved report from CCL for my Wish List, and I want to know which issue is which by just description.So sometimes more is needed than just the artist who did the cover, descriptive parts are already in the DB and those need to stay.  This is just a list of those terms you should use over others.[/quote]


[quote=comicscastle]
Yes, this is just a list of the prefered wording for the sake of consistancy. It lets people know that we want Whitman Cover, not Whitman Logo or Whitman Variant or just Whitman. All of these are in the database now. Once someone knows the prefered terms they can start putting in change requests to get everything "fixed". They will also know to use these terms instead of using nothing, which is also present in the database.
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[quote=MrMiracle]
[quote=sgriffin][b]This list isn't meant to be an exhaustive list of all possible ways a variant cover/edition may be named. It's purpose was to cover most of the common scenarios that seem to come up over and over so we can treat them consistently.[/b][/quote]

I think this would be an important point to emphasize in explaining the meaning of this terminology (why it's needed and what status it holds within the community)
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[quote=The_Valiant_One]Guys, this is quality stuff.  Pat, kudos to you for making the terminology list - and to those of you who contributed...looks great.  

I honestly believe after examining these topics more indepth, we could see a DRAMATIC way to condense the CR Guidelines and make them not quite so daunting to newbies.  

Only one question?  On the DF signed editions:

Dynamic Forces (Signed by Alex Ross) 1/xxxx

Simple capitalization in Signed.  Also, I like that everything is spelled out so people might not know that WW is Wizard World or DF is Dynamic Forces, you are educating them in more ways than one.  

MrMiracle and I have discussed this list, and I think it's grand.  :)  [/quote]


[quote=Batman007]Once the list is organized I'm willing to work with castle to make a sort of "CCL language" when combining said terms.

Like Embossed Gold Foil Cover 1/200 or 1:10 Wraparound Cover.  But for the most part, I think many Cover Descriptions will be pretty self explanatory based on this awesome list.[/quote]

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			<description><![CDATA[How about this one?
[b]Black and White Cover[/b]
Not to be confused with a [b]Sketch[/b] cover. Sketch covers are uninked (or occasionally partially inked). Black and White covers are fully inked with no color.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=sgriffin]How about this one?
[b]Black and White Cover[/b]
Not to be confused with a [b]Sketch[/b] cover. Sketch covers are uninked (or occasionally partially inked). Black and White covers are fully inked with no color.[/quote]I'll add it, thanks. Quick off topic question: The X-Men noir covers are B & W but with one small bit of color (Rogues eye, Gambit's diamond etc). Are they considered Black & White covers?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Pretty much, yeah they are considered Black and White Covers.  There's been a few books like this over the years but overall they're Black and White Covers the same was the 2nd Printings of some recent Batman Issues are Called Red Covers when they're not totally Red.  Matt Wagner did go so far as to label his series Grendel: Black, White and Red where it was Black and White except for the roses and blood and such but for all intents and purposes we should call them Black and White Cover as that's what the publishers, distributors and shops call them.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Batman007]Pretty much, yeah they are considered Black and White Covers.  There's been a few books like this over the years but overall they're Black and White Covers the same was the 2nd Printings of some recent Batman Issues are Called Red Covers when they're not totally Red.  Matt Wagner did go so far as to label his series Grendel: Black, White and Red where it was Black and White except for the roses and blood and such but for all intents and purposes we should call them Black and White Cover as that's what the publishers, distributors and shops call them.[/quote]That's what I thought. Thanks.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=sgriffin]How about this one?
[b]Black and White Cover[/b]
Not to be confused with a [b]Sketch[/b] cover. Sketch covers are uninked (or occasionally partially inked). Black and White covers are fully inked with no color.[/quote]

How about calling those that are just black and white inked ones [b]Black and White Cover[/b]. The ones with other colors (just a touch here and there)added in like the red blood and red rose,why not call those [b]Inked Cover[/b]. I mean thats what their commonly called anyway by artist.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=comicscastle][quote=Batman007]Pretty much, yeah they are considered Black and White Covers.  There's been a few books like this over the years but overall they're Black and White Covers the same was the 2nd Printings of some recent Batman Issues are Called Red Covers when they're not totally Red.  Matt Wagner did go so far as to label his series Grendel: Black, White and Red where it was Black and White except for the roses and blood and such but for all intents and purposes we should call them Black and White Cover as that's what the publishers, distributors and shops call them.[/quote]That's what I thought. Thanks.[/quote]

[quote=Sirs]
How about calling those that are just black and white inked ones [b]Black and White Cover[/b]. The ones with other colors (just a touch here and there)added in like the red blood and red rose,why not call those [b]Inked Cover[/b]. I mean thats what their commonly called anyway by artist.[/quote]

I have also seen the Black and White cover with a [b]single color [/b]referred to as SPOT COLOR cover. A little discussion of this can be found at:

http://www.ehow.com/how_2101514_embellish-a-minicomic.html?ref=fuel&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_art

Tim Sale/Frank Miller frequently use this technique not only on covers, but interiors as well. 

Don't know that you need to add this as terminology or not though, maybe considered unnecessary detail. That having been said, though, sometimes the cover variations may both be black and white with only one of them having color. I believe the recent Spider-Man Noir covers are an example, with only one of them having some color(?). Fortunately, they also have different artists, so can be differentiated in the database. For those 'hunters' who like more description for visual identification, a 'spot color' reference may be valuable.

How's that for swinging back and forth!  :-d ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[We don't need to get that detailed.  Black and White Cover is fine and contains a literal description of what's being Described anyways.  I mean we could go on forever coming up with names for things and the Terminology List is long enough as it is.  We've got the most common Terms listed on it so we'll be fine.  ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Batman007]We don't need to get that detailed.  Black and White Cover is fine and contains a literal description of what's being Described anyways.[/quote]
Yeah - the only reason I proposed it was because I had just corrected a cover that was noted as "Sketch Cover" when it was really just uncolored. "Sketch" was being overused for anything without color.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=sgriffin][quote=Batman007]We don't need to get that detailed.  Black and White Cover is fine and contains a literal description of what's being Described anyways.[/quote]
Yeah - the only reason I proposed it was because I had just corrected a cover that was noted as "Sketch Cover" when it was really just uncolored. "Sketch" was being overused for anything without color.[/quote]Yes, I noticed that the Hulk #9 1:3000 variant is listed as a sketch cover when in fact it's a Black & White.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Just know that sometimes the companies say Sketch Cover (and even print it on and in the book) when the Cover is technically a Black and White Cover.  Again, those messes that are called Dynamite Entertainment and IDW Publishing need to learn a thing or three about comics. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Batman007]Just know that sometimes the companies say Sketch Cover (and even print it on and in the book) when the Cover is technically a Black and White Cover.  Again, those messes that are called Dynamite Entertainment and IDW Publishing need to learn a thing or three about comics.[/quote]

So what they don't know how to make comics??]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Sirs][quote=Batman007]Just know that sometimes the companies say Sketch Cover (and even print it on and in the book) when the Cover is technically a Black and White Cover.  Again, those messes that are called Dynamite Entertainment and IDW Publishing need to learn a thing or three about comics.[/quote]

So what they don't know how to make comics??[/quote]Oh no, they know how to make comics, even good ones, but they don't know established terminology, or proper dating, or the proper way to word an indicia. Of course it's their product and they can do whatever they want but if they followed the industry standards they would get better placement in comic advertising and promotional companies. There are companies that have their databases set a certain way to accept certain information. If the information isn't there you don't get promoted or get pushed to the bottom of the search.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Thought of two others: Director's Cut and Special Edition (there are many comics with variants simply called "Special Edition")]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I wouldn't worry so much about those two as they're kind of obvious since they're usually printed on the Cover.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Batman007]I wouldn't worry so much about those two as they're kind of obvious since they're usually printed on the Cover.[/quote]

You think the fact that they're obvious has made a difference in the past... ?:-s 

=)) ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=vacantpassenger][quote=Batman007]I wouldn't worry so much about those two as they're kind of obvious since they're usually printed on the Cover.[/quote]

You think the fact that they're obvious has made a difference in the past... ?:-s 

=)) [/quote]

Yeah, you're right!]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Why are there all of a sudden "Color Cover" descriptions popping up instead of "Standard Cover"?  See [url=http://www.comiccollectorlive.com/LiveData/CoverTitle.aspx?id=7efa26e2-54d9-415c-b563-d64e90cd0b64]Locke & Key: Head Games[/url]]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[When the Art is the same except one is Black and White and one is Color we use Color Cover.  Using an Artist's name or Character to ID the Cover will be redundant.  If the Art were different then the Cover Descs would be something else.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I added Color to the main issue to distinguish from the sketch cover. I agree the artist is somewhat redundant, but I know there are other covers coming (at least 1), so I left it.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Batman007]When the Art is the same except one is Black and White and one is Color we use Color Cover.  Using an Artist's name or Character to ID the Cover will be redundant.  If the Art were different then the Cover Descs would be something else.[/quote]

Well, then that needs to be in the Terminology list and not just some random decision.  Thought that was the point of Standard Cover which reads "used to differentiate between the regular comic and the Variants. Should only be used on books with Variants".

Standard is the regular issue.  Black and White OR Sketch is pretty obvious.  Color Cover is just unnecessary when there are already terms that cover the situation.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Scott, we're working on it, worry not.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I like what sgriffin did, REMEMBER, the Cover Description should be enough BY ITSELF to tell it apart from others.  Assume the images are not there when you need to decide which is the right one, because some people work off of a printout list when shopping.  I can't stress this one enough, it is my personal pet peeve.  Make sure you guys get it on my tombstone, let it be what I am remembered for.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Batman007]Scott, we're working on it, worry not.[/quote]

[quote=Batman007]We don't need to get that detailed.  Black and White Cover is fine and contains a literal description of what's being Described anyways.  I mean we could go on forever coming up with names for things and the Terminology List is long enough as it is.  We've got the most common Terms listed on it so we'll be fine.  [/quote]

Hmm, changed your mind, eh? ;-)

Not worried, just annoyed that another random change came around. It's not helping me or most others get data in correctly when these changes occur and not get documented. 

(And it's not being discussed in the Lounge either so not sure where it's being worked on.)

[quote=ntkeith]I like what sgriffin did, REMEMBER, the Cover Description should be enough BY ITSELF to tell it apart from others.  Assume the images are not there when you need to decide which is the right one, because some people work off of a printout list when shopping.  I can't stress this one enough, it is my personal pet peeve.  Make sure you guys get it on my tombstone, let it be what I am remembered for.[/quote]

And if you went looking based on a list that said "Standard Cover" and found the one now listed as Color Cover, what would you do? Not pick it up because you might think it is something else? I completely understand the caption should be enough to tell them apart, but this seems a bit much when the terminology is already there to cover it. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=scotteaves][quote=Batman007]Scott, we're working on it, worry not.[/quote]

[quote=Batman007]We don't need to get that detailed.  Black and White Cover is fine and contains a literal description of what's being Described anyways.  I mean we could go on forever coming up with names for things and the Terminology List is long enough as it is.  We've got the most common Terms listed on it so we'll be fine.  [/quote]

Hmm, changed your mind, eh? ;-)

Not worried, just annoyed that another random change came around. It's not helping me or most others get data in correctly when these changes occur and not get documented. 

(And it's not being discussed in the Lounge either so not sure where it's being worked on.)

[quote=ntkeith]I like what sgriffin did, REMEMBER, the Cover Description should be enough BY ITSELF to tell it apart from others.  Assume the images are not there when you need to decide which is the right one, because some people work off of a printout list when shopping.  I can't stress this one enough, it is my personal pet peeve.  Make sure you guys get it on my tombstone, let it be what I am remembered for.[/quote]

And if you went looking based on a list that said "Standard Cover" and found the one now listed as Color Cover, what would you do? Not pick it up because you might think it is something else? I completely understand the caption should be enough to tell them apart, but this seems a bit much when the terminology is already there to cover it. [/quote]
I agree that STANDARD COVER should be used here, but I'm basing that on only seeing two covers. If the third cover is also a "standard cover" then I might change my mind. I really don't see how COLOR COVER describes the book any better than saying STANDARD COVER.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=scotteaves]
Hmm, changed your mind, eh? ;-)
 [/quote]

Not at all, we're talking about two different things.  The X-Men Noir Black and White Covers aren't the same Art as the Color Cover, they're completely different images whereas the Locke And Key Issue had the same art for both the Black and White and the Color Covers.

I was under the impression that Standard Edition applied when there was some kind enhanced Cover (ie Foil, Hologram, Gatefold, etc.) with a price increase or incentive ratio vs the same art but un-enhanced.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Batman007][quote=scotteaves]
Hmm, changed your mind, eh? ;-)
 [/quote]

Not at all, we're talking about two different things.  The X-Men Noir Black and White Covers aren't the same Art as the Color Cover, they're completely different images whereas the Locke And Key Issue had the same art for both the Black and White and the Color Covers.

I was under the impression that Standard Edition applied when there was some kind enhanced Cover (ie Foil, Hologram, Gatefold, etc.) with a price increase or incentive ratio vs the same art but un-enhanced.[/quote]

[quote=Batman007]I mean we could go on forever coming up with names for things and the Terminology List is long enough as it is. We've got the most common Terms listed on it so we'll be fine.[/quote]

intent was to target this part of your quote more than anything...]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I get it.  

Let's castle come up with his final list and then I'm going to jump in and assist with the order of terms and then we'll Add/Edit to it all as the community sees fit.  Believe me, between him and I (we've PMed a bunch about this) and all of the Requests on this thread, we've got a huge list.  Like I said, worry not, we'll get there soon.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Batman007]I get it.  

Let's castle come up with his final list and then I'm going to jump in and assist with the order of terms and then we'll Add/Edit to it all as the community sees fit.  Believe me, between him and I (we've PMed a bunch about this) and all of the Requests on this thread, we've got a huge list.  Like I said, worry not, we'll get there soon.[/quote]
Bats and I will be tackling this soon. One of the things I/we are waiting for is a list of terms for other items than comics. If you and Keith can give us a list of terms for the cards it would be a huge help. You can send them to me by PM or post them in the Terminology thread. The same with Action Figures, Statues and Original art. We don't want to do this any more than we have to because it is very time consuming. Thanks fo any help you can provide.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Fair enough.  

I know Keith has a bunch of card stuff down already.  I'll ping him to see where I can help him out with it.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[As far as cards go - most of the terminology doesn't apply to the Cover Desc / Caption field.  Seems like a large majority(95%+) goes in the Title.  Do you still want it for this purpose?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=scotteaves]As far as cards go - most of the terminology doesn't apply to the Cover Desc / Caption field.  Seems like a large majority(95%+) goes in the Title.  Do you still want it for this purpose?[/quote]

That's exactly why we need it.  Definitely send it on over and we'll compile it into castle's master list.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Here's our shot at Trading Card Terminology. Most of the Terms will apply to the Title (usually chase card subsets)- but since the Title should use the actual name provided by the manufacturer for the subset the terms may not always apply.

Terms

[b][Color/Description] Foil[/b] - Any card with a foil.  Typical colors include Gold, Silver, Bronze and Rainbow for when it is multiple colored. Etched, Mirrored, Refractor, or Chromium are examples of descriptions.

[b]Hologram[/b] - Any card with a holographic image as a main item, not as a authenticity mark on the reverse of the card (i.e. Upper Deck cards, where the UD logo is a hologram)

[b]Lenticular[/b] - Cards with a lenticular lens and when viewed at different angles, create  a "motion" effect.

[b](Animation) Cel[/b]  - Plastic cards that provide a see-thru portion (all or some) of the card. Some may be reproductions of Animation cels from animated cartoons or movies. 
 
[b]Die-Cut[/b] – Card has either holes cut in it or is cut in a shape other than a standard card.

[b]Case Topper/Case Loader[/b] – Card is included with the purchase of a case of cards. Topper is preferred and Loader should be used if the item reflects that, either printed on item, or by checklist/advert produced by manufacturer.

[b]Box Topper/Box Loader [/b]– Card is included with the purchase of a box of cards. Topper is preferred and Loader should be used if the item reflects that, either printed on item, or by checklist/advert produced by manufacturer.

[b]Parallel[/b] - May have description of color or type in front of the term Parallel.  Cards are exact images of the standard set/subset, but have an addition to them.  They may have a foil stamp on them, be numbered, or be a different color foil.  Examples are: First Day of Issue Parallel, Blue Foil Parallel, Refractor Chromium Foil Parallel.

Additional Trading Card Specific Items

Item Bio - It is desired to have the back of the card entered here, ignoring any copywrite information.  Anything that is the title of the card is optional, and can generally be included in the Cover Description field.  Anything being copied from the back of the card should be encapsulated between asterisks (*) to denote direct quotation, and should be followed with "Source: Back of card".  Additional information is encouraged, like specifics of the artwork, availability of the cards such as distributions means, and noting any mistake made on the card.

Variant Print Runs - unlike comics, this information is generally contained in the Title Description, not with each card.
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			<description><![CDATA[We hit a new one today, and this came down from Valiant on a change request...

Foldout Cover used for covers that fold out, but the fold out does not contain additional artwork from the cover.

Think of all the Marvel comics from the mid 90's where they folded out for a plot catchup and character shots.  Ka-Zar (Vol 3) is where this came from, and shows a difference between Foldout and Gatefold.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=scotteaves]Here's our shot at Trading Card Terminology. Most of the Terms will apply to the Title (usually chase card subsets)- but since the Title should use the actual name provided by the manufacturer for the subset the terms may not always apply.

Terms

[b][Color/Description] Foil[/b] - Any card with a foil.  Typical colors include Gold, Silver, Bronze and Rainbow for when it is multiple colored. Etched, Mirrored, Refractor, or Chromium are examples of descriptions.

[b]Hologram[/b] - Any card with a holographic image as a main item, not as a authenticity mark on the reverse of the card (i.e. Upper Deck cards, where the UD logo is a hologram)

[b]Lenticular[/b] - Cards with a lenticular lens and when viewed at different angles, create  a "motion" effect.

[b](Animation) Cel[/b]  - Plastic cards that provide a see-thru portion (all or some) of the card. Some may be reproductions of Animation cels from animated cartoons or movies. 
 
[b]Die-Cut[/b] – Card has either holes cut in it or is cut in a shape other than a standard card.

[b]Case Topper/Case Loader[/b] – Card is included with the purchase of a case of cards.

[b]Box Topper/Box Loader [/b]– Card is included with the purchase of a box of cards.

Additional Trading Card Specific Items

Item Bio - It is desired to have the back of the card entered here, ignoring any copywrite information.  Anything that is the title of the card is optional, and can generally be included in the Cover Description field.  Anything being copied from the back of the card should be encapsulated between asterisks (*) to denote direct quotation, and should be followed with "Source: Back of card".  Additional information is encouraged, like specifics of the artwork, availability of the cards such as distributions means, and noting any mistake made on the card.

Variant Print Runs - unlike comics, this information is generally contained in the Title Description, not with each card.
[b][/b][/quote]
Thanks, I'll leave this up for comments before adding it to the list. One question on the Case Topper/Case Loader and Box Topper/Box Loader. Is that how you list it, with both names and a /, or do you use one or the other? If you use one or the other can we settle on just one for the sake of consistancy?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I agree, I've seen Case Topper more often, and we have that in the DB.  I say we can follow that one.  Same for Box Topper.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=ntkeith]We hit a new one today, and this came down from Valiant on a change request...

Foldout Cover used for covers that fold out, but the fold out does not contain additional artwork from the cover.

Think of all the Marvel comics from the mid 90's where they folded out for a plot catchup and character shots.  Ka-Zar (Vol 3) is where this came from, and shows a difference between Foldout and Gatefold.[/quote]

Was this discussed in the forums?

Adding "Foldout Cover" to every Marvel comic for three years seems completely ridiculous and unnecessary to me.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[It was a change, I think you challenged calling it "Gatefold" (I might be wrong), and Steve spoke up with this.

They are a different type of comic, and can be noted that way.  Mixing them in with Gatefold doesn't make sense, and Valiant said we was coming back to the Guidelines to update it as such.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[My main concern is the fact that this means the database will now have "Foldout Cover" in thousands of comics and it just isn't useful. There was a period of time when the back covers were "foldout" for ads. To me it's just clutter in the cover description and just makes the reports even more frustrating to utilize in a simple list than they already are.

The need to constantly have insignificant information in cover descriptions in nearly every comic honestly makes the Wish List report functionally useless to me.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=comicscastle]
Thanks, I'll leave this up for comments before adding it to the list. One question on the Case Topper/Case Loader and Box Topper/Box Loader. Is that how you list it, with both names and a /, or do you use one or the other? If you use one or the other can we settle on just one for the sake of consistancy?[/quote]

Depends on the manufacturer.  Inkworks uses Loader and the cards  reflect that in the numbering - Box Loaders are often BL-x and Case Loaders are CL-x.

Topps uses Box/Case Topper.

That's why I listed both since there is no consistency between the manufacturer.

I've also added an additional term to my initial post with TC terminology - [b]Parallel[/b].]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=SwiftMann]My main concern is the fact that this means the database will now have "Foldout Cover" in thousands of comics and it just isn't useful. There was a period of time when the back covers were "foldout" for ads. To me it's just clutter in the cover description and just makes the reports even more frustrating to utilize in a simple list than they already are.

The need to constantly have insignificant information in cover descriptions in nearly every comic honestly makes the Wish List report functionally useless to me.[/quote]

Funny, I think partially the opposite.  I hate cover descriptions that don't give you enough to tell it apart while at the store.  So what if I know who the artist is if I can't tell who did the artwork from looking at the cover?

And while yes, I don't see a great value on this, it is accurate, and it will stop people from trying to change them to Gatefold.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=scotteaves][quote=comicscastle]
Thanks, I'll leave this up for comments before adding it to the list. One question on the Case Topper/Case Loader and Box Topper/Box Loader. Is that how you list it, with both names and a /, or do you use one or the other? If you use one or the other can we settle on just one for the sake of consistancy?[/quote]

Depends on the manufacturer.  Inkworks uses Loader and the cards  reflect that in the numbering - Box Loaders are often BL-x and Case Loaders are CL-x.

Topps uses Box/Case Topper.

That's why I listed both since there is no consistency between the manufacturer.

I've also added an additional term to my initial post with TC terminology - [b]Parallel[/b].[/quote]

Since the golden rule on Trading Cards os to match what the manufacture printed on the item, I do see scotteaves point, and it should be noted as such.  Topper is preferred and Loader should be used if the item reflects that, either printed on item, or by checklist/advert produced by manufacturer.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Has the original post been updated based on the discussion? If so, I'd like to clean this out for the sake of readability.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=MrMiracle]Has the original post been updated based on the discussion? If so, I'd like to clean this out for the sake of readability.[/quote]Yes it has. Everything else can be eliminated. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Well, it's been over a year and this thread never got "cleaned out".  (Hint-hint)  I just had to read through 3 pages to find out the initial post had been edited to reflect the discussion. ;-)

Anyway, I have another thought on this topic related to Dynamic Forces.  Sometimes there is a "true" DF edition, often with the DF logo on the cover but not always.  That is very different from a non-DF item that DF has purchased and had remarked or signed.  Here is what I have been doing in my recent CRs:

1) If it is a DF-printed variant cover, then I say something like:

DF Alex Ross Variant (Signed by Alex Ross) 1/100

2) If it is a regular cover with value-added by DF, then I write:

Alex Ross Cover (Signed by Alex Ross) DF:1/100

This tells us where Dynamic Forces added their value to the issue.  In case 1, they added a new variant cover and had it signed by the artist.  Hence it is truly a "DF Edition."  In case 2, they took a normal cover and had it signed by the artist.  Hence the only DF contribution is in the Numbered COA.

Maybe this is too nit-picky for some, but it bothers me to see a comic listed in the database as a "DF Edition," when it really isn't.  The guidelines tell everyone to say "DF Edition" on all DF products.

Any opinions out there?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=IcyNova]DF Alex Ross Variant (Signed by Alex Ross) 1/100[/quote]
Should be DF Alex Ross [b]Cover[/b] (Signed by Alex Ross) 1/100.  We avoid the word "variant" in cover descriptions.

[quote]Alex Ross Cover (Signed by Alex Ross) DF:1/100[/quote]
I like the intent. Not sure about the execution. That'll take some thinking, but I like the intent.  ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[No idea if I am right in this part of the forum. I have about 3 months worth of comics which haven't been approved. Any idea when the approvement rate will become faster ?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=frank666]No idea if I am right in this part of the forum. I have about 3 months worth of comics which haven't been approved. Any idea when the approvement rate will become faster ?[/quote]

Getting things approved the last few months is like pulling teeth. I have begun sending private messages to Approvers to speed things along. I usually start with the Approver(s) that approved my most recent CR's.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Trying to get a better handle on this. We have added a couple of new approvers. Here is the activity from last week. Please feel free to welcome the new guys... Thundercron and clloydpsu. Here are the stats:

Handle                    FirstUpdate	LastUpdate	TotalUpdates
The_Valiant_One	10-14-2024	10-17-2024	196
wildd0g	                10-14-2024	10-16-2024	86
barney	                10-14-2024	10-20-2024	58
scotteaves	        10-17-2024	10-17-2024	38
Tamwood	        10-17-2024	10-18-2024	24
Thundercron	        10-18-2024	10-20-2024	20
icarus201	        10-15-2024	10-19-2024	15
Joe	                        10-16-2024	10-16-2024	12
Spider-Man	        10-19-2024	10-19-2024	12
clloydpsu	        10-17-2024	10-17-2024	2

Also, if you see some good submissions by people who are not approvers, let me know and we will invite them to help out. 

Thanks for all you guys do. 
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