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			<description><![CDATA[Quick question. Where is the Spectre in all this new 52 reboot shenanigans? I'd hate to think my favourite DC character was currently in comic limbo when so many lame ducks are still flying around the DCU. Swamp Thing, Deadman and Rac Shade are still around, so my other passions survive till another cancellation day.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=icarus201]Quick question. Where is the Spectre in all this new 52 reboot shenanigans? I'd hate to think my favourite DC character was currently in comic limbo when so many lame ducks are still flying around the DCU. Swamp Thing, Deadman and Rac Shade are still around, so my other passions survive till another cancellation day.[/quote]
So far, he has yet to make an appearance. ]]></description>
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I'm a huge Spectre fan, and I find it highly unlikely that Avatar of god's wrath would simply allow the events of Flashpoint to transpire or worse yet continue and not make some kind of appearance to offset this new continuity thing.]]></description>
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I'm a huge Spectre fan, and I find it highly unlikely that Avatar of god's wrath would simply allow the events of Flashpoint to transpire or worse yet continue and not make some kind of appearance to offset this new continuity thing.[/quote]
Maybe the Spectre is the hooded figure that appeared in all the New 52 #1's. :-k ]]></description>
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Maybe the Spectre is the hooded figure that appeared in all the New 52 #1's. :-k [/quote]

That's an interesting theory, Icarus. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[The "hooded figure" is a woman, so unless they changed the sex of the Spectre, it's not him.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:05:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Dumerill]The "hooded figure" is a woman, so unless they changed the sex of the Spectre, it's not him.[/quote]

[b]If Loki can come back as a chick then why not Spectre?[/b]]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Dumerill]The "hooded figure" is a woman, so unless they changed the sex of the Spectre, it's not him.[/quote]
That could be part of the reboot. There's no reason why the Spectre couldn't now have a female host body.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[There are 2 things that stick in my craw about the new 52:

1.  Some of the art is just bad.  I'm looking at Mr. Terrific and Grifter.  It saddens me that there are some awesome artists out there without a job and the guys on these books absolutely blow.

2.  What is going on in some of the books?  Some of them are reboots, some are not.  Some are continuing stories, some are not.  There are a lot of people that say screw continuity...but unfortunately I am not one of them.  Also, some of the story telling is just so bad that I don't know what is going on from month to month.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I am simply puzzled by 52. They all don't seem to be in the same timeline. For example:

[u][b]JLA:[/b][/u] the heroes are seem to be hated by the public.
[u][b]Superman & Action comics:[/b][/u] in Superman Kal-EL seems to be accepted by the public, while in Action Comics it seems to be the beginning of his career.
[b][u]Green Arrow:[/u][/b] at the beginning
[b][u]Green Lantern:[/u][/b] the story has continued from the pre Flashpoint era, i.e. differant type of rings etc.
[b][u]Batman:[/u][/b] same as Green Lantern, but then again in JLA he is at the beginning.

So as said it is quite confusing.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=frank666]I am simply puzzled by 52. They all don't seem to be in the same timeline. For example:

[u][b]JLA:[/b][/u] the heroes are seem to be hated by the public.
[u][b]Superman & Action comics:[/b][/u] in Superman Kal-EL seems to be accepted by the public, while in Action Comics it seems to be the beginning of his career.[/quote]
The first arc of Justice League is set 5 years before all the rest of the 52 books. Action Comics is set 10 years before the rest of the books.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=padreglcc][quote=frank666]I am simply puzzled by 52. They all don't seem to be in the same timeline. For example:

[u][b]JLA:[/b][/u] the heroes are seem to be hated by the public.
[u][b]Superman & Action comics:[/b][/u] in Superman Kal-EL seems to be accepted by the public, while in Action Comics it seems to be the beginning of his career.[/quote]
The first arc of Justice League is set 5 years before all the rest of the 52 books. Action Comics is set 10 years before the rest of the books.[/quote]

Ah didnt know that, thanks for the info. So all the others titles are on the same "timeline" etc. 
The only critism I have about "52" is that DC has now rebooted it's universe, what 4 times, so it is getting old. They should think of something else :-d At least the new JSA will finally be taking place on Earth 2 and I am really looking forward to that title.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[So, another thing. With the DC Universe all being rebooted from scratch, does this mean that all the classic villains and supporting cast; Joker, Luthor, Lois et al, have to be re-introduced?   ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=frank666]I am simply puzzled by 52. They all don't seem to be in the same timeline. For example:

[u][b]JLA:[/b][/u] the heroes are seem to be hated by the public.
[u][b]Superman & Action comics:[/b][/u] in Superman Kal-EL seems to be accepted by the public, while in Action Comics it seems to be the beginning of his career.
[b][u]Green Arrow:[/u][/b] at the beginning
[b][u]Green Lantern:[/u][/b] the story has continued from the pre Flashpoint era, i.e. differant type of rings etc.
[b][u]Batman:[/u][/b] same as Green Lantern, but then again in JLA he is at the beginning.

So as said it is quite confusing.[/quote]

It is. Did certain characters just go puff into non-existence in the re-boot. The Batgirl comic has Barbara Gordon right after she was shot by the Joker but she wasn't but into a wheelchair and continues as Batgirl. So what happens to Cassandra Cane and Stephie Brown. Did they just diappear?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=treker10][quote=frank666]I am simply puzzled by 52. They all don't seem to be in the same timeline. For example:

[u][b]JLA:[/b][/u] the heroes are seem to be hated by the public.
[u][b]Superman & Action comics:[/b][/u] in Superman Kal-EL seems to be accepted by the public, while in Action Comics it seems to be the beginning of his career.
[b][u]Green Arrow:[/u][/b] at the beginning
[b][u]Green Lantern:[/u][/b] the story has continued from the pre Flashpoint era, i.e. differant type of rings etc.
[b][u]Batman:[/u][/b] same as Green Lantern, but then again in JLA he is at the beginning.

So as said it is quite confusing.[/quote]

It is. Did certain characters just go puff into non-existence in the re-boot. The Batgirl comic has Barbara Gordon right after she was shot by the Joker but she wasn't but into a wheelchair and continues as Batgirl. So what happens to Cassandra Cane and Stephie Brown. Did they just diappear?[/quote]
Batgirl actually picks up a good deal of time after Barbara was shot. She was wheelchair bound for some time until she received an experimental treatment and regained the use of her legs. 

As far as other characters, some of them do appear to have gone away (ot at least not been reintroduced yet). The New 52 has not introduced us to Cassandra Cain or Stephanie Brown yet, so I have no idea if either of them ever served as Batgirl.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 11:18:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[The new Batgirl takes places 3 years after the Joker's shooting. But my point was that like that of frank666's that the new 52's timeline is confusing because other Bat books seem to take place in other time periods. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[What happened to Abin Sur?  He survived Flashpoint but isn't referred to in the Green Lantern books.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 19:02:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=davidrn]What happened to Abin Sur?  He survived Flashpoint but isn't referred to in the Green Lantern books.[/quote]
The post Flashpoint Green Lantern continuity is largely unchanged, meaning that Abin Sur still died and his ring found Hal Jordan. By the way, an upcoming storyarc in Green Lantern, "The Secret of the Indigo Tribe," has something to do with Abin Sur.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=davidrn]What happened to Abin Sur?  He survived Flashpoint but isn't referred to in the Green Lantern books.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure everything in Flashpoint was wiped clean by the end of the story. I'm gonna have to go back and re-read again, now.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I must congratulate DC on their 52 reboot. Compared to the already impressive amounts of DC reboots, this one has largely worked brilliant.
I only see Green Arrow as the big loser as I prefered the old Ollie which is why I dropped the title. 
The big winners, in my opinion, are Teen Titans, Superman and the Earth 2 titles which I enjoy very much.
And, of course compared to Marvel, DC isn't swamping the market with issues. I mean there hasn't been a 52 mini series since it started. I mean you have to wait an ENTIRE month before you can read the next issue.:)) ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Abin Sur is still dead. They did not change anything in Green Lantern or Batman (the books that actually sell).  The other books were not selling and needed a kick start. With the exception of some (Aquaman, JLA and Batman & Robin) most of the books have been terrible.  Its unfortunate that even with the reboot DC is still circling the toilet=(( ..... ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[i love all the Dc new 52 but only because i'm a die hard DC fan i mostly love the justice league an i feel people on not liking the story's but i think they good not great but just good or maybe fine (an yes at time that sh*t do have me like wtf did i just read i spent money on this sh*t awwwwwx-( (:| =(( )but aside from that the art is good to me an marvel has't dropped anything worth reading to me but AvX stuff so my rating on the NEW 52 would be on all of them  7 out of 10 with aquaman,flash,batman,Dark knight,green lantern,Justice League and maybe just maybe superman<(new outfit suck)and Action comics<(outfit also sucks)being all the big hitters an all the others are just good.(this is all my Opinion)  ]]></description>
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When do this drop ? is it really Sept 5 ?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[i don't understand why people dislike the DC NEW 52:`( its sooooo awesome ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=StreetNERD]i don't understand why people dislike the DC NEW 52:`( its sooooo awesome [/quote]

People don't like change????:-/ ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=StreetNERD]i don't understand why people dislike the DC NEW 52:`( its sooooo awesome [/quote]

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it's a spit in the face to loyal readers. We've been following and supporting these characters for 20+ years and suddenly they just decide that none of it even matters. It's all going down the crapper. If someone did that other popular media out there like Twilight, Pokemon, or James Bond; you better believe there'd be people upset about it.

Maybe if these changes were good enough to warrant it, I might be a little less bitter. But frankly, it's not. The old DC Universe was giving us better stories and better characters. And if anything, they've messed up their own continuity by doing so, rather than fixing it. I mean how can Batman go through 3 different Boy Wonders in a 5-year span?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BurningDoom][quote=StreetNERD]i don't understand why people dislike the DC NEW 52:`( its sooooo awesome [/quote]

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it's a spit in the face to loyal readers. We've been following and supporting these characters for 20+ years and suddenly they just decide that none of it even matters. It's all going down the crapper. If someone did that other popular media out there like Twilight, Pokemon, or James Bond; you better believe there'd be people upset about it.

Maybe if these changes were good enough to warrant it, I might be a little less bitter. But frankly, it's not. The old DC Universe was giving us better stories and better characters. And if anything, they've messed up their own continuity by doing so, rather than fixing it. I mean how can Batman go through 3 different Boy Wonders in a 5-year span?[/quote]

For once, I agree with BD. Some of us (not me, natch o:) ) have been following these books for 40 or 50 years easy, and they frequent these forums.

If you think this is bad, just wait for [i]Marvel Now[/i]. Not enough reasons for me to be optimistic about this maneuver; [u]not the least of which has been all tried before, failed, and reversed.[/u] Why again now?

For those who enjoy the [i]New 48[/i], God bless, pleases me to know there are newer readers out there still interested... just don't forget what it took to get there.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BurningDoom][quote=StreetNERD]i don't understand why people dislike the DC NEW 52:`( its sooooo awesome [/quote]

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it's a spit in the face to loyal readers. We've been following and supporting these characters for 20+ years and suddenly they just decide that none of it even matters. It's all going down the crapper. If someone did that other popular media out there like Twilight, Pokemon, or James Bond; you better believe there'd be people upset about it.

Maybe if these changes were good enough to warrant it, I might be a little less bitter. But frankly, it's not. The old DC Universe was giving us better stories and better characters. And if anything, they've messed up their own continuity by doing so, rather than fixing it. I mean how can Batman go through 3 different Boy Wonders in a 5-year span?[/quote]

Well, now I know how all the old-timers felt when the original Crisis on Infinite Earths wiped away their universe to make way for my generation's Post-Crisis universe. Karma is a B.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BurningDoom][quote=StreetNERD]i don't understand why people dislike the DC NEW 52:`( its sooooo awesome [/quote]

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it's a spit in the face to loyal readers. We've been following and supporting these characters for 20+ years and suddenly they just decide that none of it even matters. It's all going down the crapper. If someone did that other popular media out there like Twilight, Pokemon, or [b]James Bond[/b]; you better believe there'd be people upset about it.

Maybe if these changes were good enough to warrant it, I might be a little less bitter. But frankly, it's not. The old DC Universe was giving us better stories and better characters. And if anything, they've messed up their own continuity by doing so, rather than fixing it. I mean how can Batman go through 3 different Boy Wonders in a 5-year span?[/quote]

It's funny that you mention James Bond in your post, since that's pretty much exactly what happened with Casino Royale (the following two films). It's also happened with Star Trek recently. Both of those were big properties that got reboots that were wildly successful, revitalizing their franchises. The same could be said of the New 52. Since the reboot, most of the top 10 books in any given time frame have been DC books and Marvel appears to be scrambling to keep up (hence the "Marvel Now" shenanigans).]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=padreglcc][quote=BurningDoom][quote=StreetNERD]i don't understand why people dislike the DC NEW 52:`( its sooooo awesome [/quote]

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it's a spit in the face to loyal readers. We've been following and supporting these characters for 20+ years and suddenly they just decide that none of it even matters. It's all going down the crapper. If someone did that other popular media out there like Twilight, Pokemon, or [b]James Bond[/b]; you better believe there'd be people upset about it.

Maybe if these changes were good enough to warrant it, I might be a little less bitter. But frankly, it's not. The old DC Universe was giving us better stories and better characters. And if anything, they've messed up their own continuity by doing so, rather than fixing it. I mean how can Batman go through 3 different Boy Wonders in a 5-year span?[/quote]

It's funny that you mention James Bond in your post, since that's pretty much exactly what happened with Casino Royale (the following two films). It's also happened with Star Trek recently. Both of those were big properties that got reboots that were wildly successful, revitalizing their franchises. The same could be said of the New 52. Since the reboot, most of the top 10 books in any given time frame have been DC books and Marvel appears to be scrambling to keep up (hence the "Marvel Now" shenanigans).[/quote]

I don't think you've heard from too many longtime fans of those franchises, then. Because I've heard many complaints from those camps.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BurningDoom][quote=padreglcc][quote=BurningDoom][quote=StreetNERD]i don't understand why people dislike the DC NEW 52:`( its sooooo awesome [/quote]

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it's a spit in the face to loyal readers. We've been following and supporting these characters for 20+ years and suddenly they just decide that none of it even matters. It's all going down the crapper. If someone did that other popular media out there like Twilight, Pokemon, or [b]James Bond[/b]; you better believe there'd be people upset about it.

Maybe if these changes were good enough to warrant it, I might be a little less bitter. But frankly, it's not. The old DC Universe was giving us better stories and better characters. And if anything, they've messed up their own continuity by doing so, rather than fixing it. I mean how can Batman go through 3 different Boy Wonders in a 5-year span?[/quote]

It's funny that you mention James Bond in your post, since that's pretty much exactly what happened with Casino Royale (the following two films). It's also happened with Star Trek recently. Both of those were big properties that got reboots that were wildly successful, revitalizing their franchises. The same could be said of the New 52. Since the reboot, most of the top 10 books in any given time frame have been DC books and Marvel appears to be scrambling to keep up (hence the "Marvel Now" shenanigans).[/quote]

I don't think you've heard from too many longtime fans of those franchises, then. Because I've heard many complaints from those camps.[/quote]

That may have been your experience. My experience with long term fans (went to see the new Star Trek with a bunch of them) has been over all positive. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=padreglcc][quote=BurningDoom][quote=padreglcc][quote=BurningDoom][quote=StreetNERD]i don't understand why people dislike the DC NEW 52:`( its sooooo awesome [/quote]

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it's a spit in the face to loyal readers. We've been following and supporting these characters for 20+ years and suddenly they just decide that none of it even matters. It's all going down the crapper. If someone did that other popular media out there like Twilight, Pokemon, or [b]James Bond[/b]; you better believe there'd be people upset about it.

Maybe if these changes were good enough to warrant it, I might be a little less bitter. But frankly, it's not. The old DC Universe was giving us better stories and better characters. And if anything, they've messed up their own continuity by doing so, rather than fixing it. I mean how can Batman go through 3 different Boy Wonders in a 5-year span?[/quote]

It's funny that you mention James Bond in your post, since that's pretty much exactly what happened with Casino Royale (the following two films). It's also happened with Star Trek recently. Both of those were big properties that got reboots that were wildly successful, revitalizing their franchises. The same could be said of the New 52. Since the reboot, most of the top 10 books in any given time frame have been DC books and Marvel appears to be scrambling to keep up (hence the "Marvel Now" shenanigans).[/quote]

I don't think you've heard from too many longtime fans of those franchises, then. Because I've heard many complaints from those camps.[/quote]

That may have been your experience. My experience with long term fans (went to see the new Star Trek with a bunch of them) has been over all positive. [/quote]

I think he is saying he has heard a lot of negativity regarding the DC reboot, less the Star Trek franchise. But at least J. J. Abrahms left the canon intact and preserved the continuity with the whole "parallel universe" thing, which soothed longtime trekkers into thinking it was okay to have their favorite icons being portrayed by other actors. DC... well, let's say less consideration to the faithful.

Correct in that DC owns the top 10 in sales, but they seem to own a great share of aggravation as well. Marvel just hasn't been in the news as much during this time, hence the overhaul that no-one seems to want.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Dementia5][quote=padreglcc][quote=BurningDoom][quote=padreglcc][quote=BurningDoom][quote=StreetNERD]i don't understand why people dislike the DC NEW 52:`( its sooooo awesome [/quote]

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it's a spit in the face to loyal readers. We've been following and supporting these characters for 20+ years and suddenly they just decide that none of it even matters. It's all going down the crapper. If someone did that other popular media out there like Twilight, Pokemon, or [b]James Bond[/b]; you better believe there'd be people upset about it.

Maybe if these changes were good enough to warrant it, I might be a little less bitter. But frankly, it's not. The old DC Universe was giving us better stories and better characters. And if anything, they've messed up their own continuity by doing so, rather than fixing it. I mean how can Batman go through 3 different Boy Wonders in a 5-year span?[/quote]

It's funny that you mention James Bond in your post, since that's pretty much exactly what happened with Casino Royale (the following two films). It's also happened with Star Trek recently. Both of those were big properties that got reboots that were wildly successful, revitalizing their franchises. The same could be said of the New 52. Since the reboot, most of the top 10 books in any given time frame have been DC books and Marvel appears to be scrambling to keep up (hence the "Marvel Now" shenanigans).[/quote]

I don't think you've heard from too many longtime fans of those franchises, then. Because I've heard many complaints from those camps.[/quote]

That may have been your experience. My experience with long term fans (went to see the new Star Trek with a bunch of them) has been over all positive. [/quote]

I think he is saying he has heard a lot of negativity regarding the DC reboot, less the Star Trek franchise. But at least J. J. Abrahms left the canon intact and preserved the continuity with the whole "parallel universe" thing, which soothed longtime trekkers into thinking it was okay to have their favorite icons being portrayed by other actors. DC... well, let's say less consideration to the faithful.

Correct in that DC owns the top 10 in sales, but they seem to own a great share of aggravation as well. Marvel just hasn't been in the news as much during this time, hence the overhaul that no-one seems to want.[/quote]

I meant both, actually. I've heard many Star Trek fans say that it's a great movie, on it's own. But it just doesn't feel like Star Trek. And as a longtime Star Trek fan, I have to agree.]]></description>
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That may have been your experience. My experience with long term fans (went to see the new Star Trek with a bunch of them) has been over all positive. 


Mine have been mostly all positive too. I'm glad that they did it, it got rid of a LOT of dead weight. I sell at least twice as many, and have 30% more NEW DC customers than before. 

Marvel is so convoluted now (worse than DC was) that Marvel Zombies (aptly named) are just buying the books in hope that something will actually happen. Marvel should do a complete reboot, but they are too chicken-shite to try... so we get Marvel Now... which won't be 'now' inside of 2 years. Don't mistake me. I LOVE the Marvel characters. The bar is just so low, mediocrity equals great in the House of Everyone Elses' Ideas, but they could be so much better instead of this change-for-change sake crap that they are shoveling.

BurningDoom is correct about a 'slap in the face'... but it was a much needed one. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Look as far a DC goes I found the new 52" a great jump on point and even started picking up back issues me and my brother both are long time marvel fans who never looked at DC and now I must say I was missing out The justice leauge what little i got my hands on was epic I loved Deathstroke so much I went back and grabbed back issues aswell blue beatle is also a title I enjoy and Flas has me looking for back issues also as far as the long time fans I dont knw what to say but as a new fan I think it was a fantastic idea to add to the fan base I know I am sold and my brother aswell :-d ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Was I the only one hoping Zatanna would get her own series in the New 52 line?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=DZyFX0]Was I the only one hoping Zatanna would get her own series in the New 52 line?[/quote]

I definitely don't mind seeing her. ;-)  But I haven't seen enough from her to warrant her own ongoing.

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BurningDoom][quote=DZyFX0]Was I the only one hoping Zatanna would get her own series in the New 52 line?[/quote]

I definitely don't mind seeing her. ;-)  But I haven't seen enough from her to warrant her own ongoing.

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I agree but that also could have been another reason to give her a series. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'm a bit worried that there's only four threads in this forum. Do threads often get deleted, or are there simply none ever posted?
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Have any characters from the Elseworlds "the kingdom" story-arc come into the new52 yet? I got attached to an old Superman who had given up. Because it addressed the biggest reason I don't like Superman, someone in his position who gives everything and doesn't get anything back at all wouldn't have any reason to continue caring for the populace. And this older version of Superman has accepted just that, and left the world to turn to chaos, which he's then convinced is his place in the world, to act as the barrier between optimal functioning and that reality. I actually have no insights as to what would be a good way to introduce characters from that world, I was just wondering if there are any, or if there're plans to do so?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aegaleus]I'm a bit worried that there's only four threads in this forum. Do threads often get deleted, or are there simply none ever posted?
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Have any characters from the Elseworlds "the kingdom" story-arc come into the new52 yet? I got attached to an old Superman who had given up. Because it addressed the biggest reason I don't like Superman, someone in his position who gives everything and doesn't get anything back at all wouldn't have any reason to continue caring for the populace. And this older version of Superman has accepted just that, and left the world to turn to chaos, which he's then convinced is his place in the world, to act as the barrier between optimal functioning and that reality. I actually have no insights as to what would be a good way to introduce characters from that world, I was just wondering if there are any, or if there're plans to do so?[/quote]Only 4 from the last month. Just choose a longer option.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=comicscastle][quote=Aegaleus]I'm a bit worried that there's only four threads in this forum. Do threads often get deleted, or are there simply none ever posted?
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Have any characters from the Elseworlds "the kingdom" story-arc come into the new52 yet? I got attached to an old Superman who had given up. Because it addressed the biggest reason I don't like Superman, someone in his position who gives everything and doesn't get anything back at all wouldn't have any reason to continue caring for the populace. And this older version of Superman has accepted just that, and left the world to turn to chaos, which he's then convinced is his place in the world, to act as the barrier between optimal functioning and that reality. I actually have no insights as to what would be a good way to introduce characters from that world, I was just wondering if there are any, or if there're plans to do so?[/quote]Only 4 from the last month. Just choose a longer option.[/quote]
What he said. In the main DC Comics forum (or any forum), below the active topics, there's a drop down box. It's automatically set for 1 month, but you can up that to 2 months, 6 months, or even All.

PS - Welcome to the boards. Nice to meet you.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[First, Welcome to the site! We love having new people show up and bring their unique perspectives to our Forums!

Second, I have learned something new today. For some reason I never paid attention to that drop down box. :-p  Now I know.

Third, I do seem to recall that some of the characters from Kingdom Come showed up in regular DC continuity before '52' (Plastic Man's son Offspring for one) but I haven't seen any of them in the new 52. Admittedly I haven't read many new DC titles.

Well, thank you for joining us - I think you will fit in well!

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=MoonKnight1]Third, I do seem to recall that some of the characters from Kingdom Come showed up in regular DC continuity before '52' (Plastic Man's son Offspring for one) but I haven't seen any of them in the new 52. Admittedly I haven't read many new DC titles.
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I honestly don't think we've seen any established elseworlds characters show up in the New 52 at this point.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Any idea when the cut the covers off the unsold #1's and mail them back begins?

Do they typically apply the credit to future invoices at Diamond in general or specifically to DC issues ordered? I'm thinking it'd be nice if the DC #1 credits showed up at the same time they wanted money for all the #1 Marvels in October. The owners of the issues that did sell might want to have an idea when the glut of over purchases would start disappearing from the market giving their copies a chance of going up in value from reduced quantities available also.]]></description>
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