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			<description><![CDATA[i just read grandpa's marvel thred of this same subject, and i was very suprised to see that most everyone hates spider-man and wolverine. i figuered about every marvel fanboy would get the hugest boner for these two characters. other surprises were fantastic four and iron man. i wanna know what DC heros that you just cant stand.

me? i hate vixen. she doesnt need to ge in the jla. geo-force to. i never cared for black canary, and hated it when she became leader of the jla..but shes grown on me. other wize i like just about everybody.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I HATE Superman, he just pisses me off]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=spidey0vs0venom]I HATE Superman, he just pisses me off[/quote]

thats another thing i dont get. why do alot of people hate superman so much? hes the wolrds greatest superhero. he inspiers everyone to be better than what they think they can be. and people wanna say "well hes to powerfull..he never loses, he always wins" well if you havnt noticed, thats the same for every superhero..they never lose. they always win. every superhero. is it becuz hes not wolverine and hes not an anti-hero or somthing? how can you hate a guy that would give his life to save yours? maybe its the same reason ppl hate john cena..they dont have one.

sorry for the rant.
i wasnt callin you out or anything spidey0vs0venom.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[People probably hate Supes because of his goody goody history. He's not really a dark, kick butt character with a dark past like Batman or Wolverine and that kind of story seems to interest people. I like Superman. I hated him for years until around the mid 90's but he's one of my faves now. I think he gets a bad rap for being so powerful and campy for all those years.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[No it's cool I understand your points.

I don't like Superman because hes not a relateable character.  I understand the part about him being one of the greatest superheroes ever but I can't relate to an alien being whos planet was blown up.  I'm not saying I hate every character that isn't relateable but I also don't like him because he doesn't have any real weaknesses besides magic and kryptonite.  He doesn't have many real world problems.  Supes is to omnipotent

I like Spider-man because the reader can relate to the problems hes having like with his girlfriend or his job and school.  He is a relateable character that I enjoy reading.  

Actually I really only like the Joker and Batman from D.C. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[jimmy olson  superman lois lane  ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=spidey0vs0venom]No it's cool I understand your points.

I don't like Superman because hes not a relateable character.  I understand the part about him being one of the greatest superheroes ever but I can't relate to an alien being whos planet was blown up.  I'm not saying I hate every character that isn't relateable but I also don't like him because he doesn't have any real weaknesses besides magic and kryptonite.  He doesn't have many real world problems.  Supes is to omnipotent

I like Spider-man because the reader can relate to the problems hes having like with his girlfriend or his job and school.  He is a relateable character that I enjoy reading.  

Actually I really only like the Joker and Batman from D.C. [/quote]

That's exactly why I like Superman. Because he's not so relatable. I want to read comics to take me away from my problems in this world not be reminded of them. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Impulse

most of the characters of the JSA

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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:09:38 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[The Joker's Daughter. She just really rubbed me the wrong way . . . sexually,:-$ I kid I kid. Seriously, glad she's dead]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[When I was a kid, Superman was the fave because he could do anything.  Now that I'm "grown-up" I don't like the idea of a character that can just do anything just because he shows up.  I need conflict for growth.  If I wanted easy answer comics I'd read Archie.  I don't HATE Supes, I just don't care to follow him. 

And is it just me, or do DC villains seem to just give up when the hero tracks them down?  (Save the Joker and Sinestro)

To each their own, I guess...]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I don't hate but I don't like sups either.  It's not because he's "too omnipotent" or something generic like that, it's because he's like the fruitiest badass there is.  He could handle any situation there is with his pinky but he still always gets his tail handed to him for some stupid reason I don't undersand.  Bats is only human & he seems to whoop more @$$ than sups, whats that about?  I know he holds back, but that's what I mean he has too many fruity ideals that keeps him from the greatness that he should be.  My fav portrayal of him is in Sup/Bat comic but still he has only grown on me a lil.

I truly hate the creeper though.  What's up with this dude?  I saw his comeback & wasn't surprised that he didn't last that long.  

Also don't realy like anybody on the JSA team except for Powergirl.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Sundance]When I was a kid, Superman was the fave because he could do anything.  Now that I'm "grown-up" I don't like the idea of a character that can just do anything just because he shows up.  I need conflict for growth.  If I wanted easy answer comics I'd read Archie.  I don't HATE Supes, I just don't care to follow him. 

And is it just me, or do DC villains seem to just give up when the hero tracks them down?  (Save the Joker and Sinestro)

To each their own, I guess...[/quote]

this is what im talking about. superman cant do anything. he can do alot, but not anything. and yea, theres conflict in his comics, superman size conflict. theres nothing easy about taking down luthor or brainiac. spider-man sure as hell couldnt do it. your theory of "easy anser" comics could be aplied to any character. and i know thers not much i could say to make you like superman, and im not trying to change anyones mind, but it s SUPERMAN. EARTH'S GREATEST HERO. this guy would do anything for you, how can you hate that.

again, sorry for the rant.
and im not trying to call you out or anything sundance.

..i dunno..as lame and as nerdy, and pathetic as it may seem...there arnt alot of things ill get real serius about...but superman hating is one of them..i know it sounds stupid..but..i dunno..its how i am. im sure you guys got a character you'l defend to the death...or maybe im just that lame..]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[No worries, scaryhead.  I don't hate him, just not my favorite.  I'd defend Batman to the end.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'd defend Spider-man to the death.  I absolutely understand reading comics to be taken out of the real world but their problems do make for good stories.  The thing that kind of turns me off about DC is the whole rebooting of continuity more than once, Supermans change of powers, it's all very confusing unless you've read it all from the beginning]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Impule-Annoying little brat.
Most of the Legion of Super-Heroes or anyone else with Lad in their name.
Robin

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			<description><![CDATA[If you think about it really hard, for any company an abundance of charactors with names ending in boy, girl, woman, man, lad or starting with any rank are kind of cheesy.  But as some of the other people have stated, these books are here for an escape of the day to day grind.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'll agree on disliking the Legion types.  They always annoyed me.  I too fall into the "I don;t care for Superman" camp.  He's gotten better over the years, but he's only interesting to me in the context of the JLA and team ups.  The solo stuff just doesn;t appeal to me at all.  I never cared for alot of the "other Leaguers" from the 80's and 90's.  People like Hawk and Dove come immediately to mind.  ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I can't say that I really dislike any DC character, but Superman, when written poorly by a bad writer, just annoys the crap out of me.   Oh wait.  I do hate one.  Red Tornado.  That f@*ker borrowed $20 off off of me and still hasn't paid me back.  Never trust a robot my friends :)]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Aquaman just drives me crazy. He is pretty much useless in my opinon, he can swim fast, talk to fish.... thats about it.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[scaryhead > After thinking about what you've said, I realize I haven't read enough Superman to make the call.  I did buy the Doomsday issues when they came out, but I don't really have any other S-man books.  

Any particular issues, TPB's, arc's that would be a good start on the Superman saga?

Thanks,]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[color=darkblue][i]Superman's just to powerful for me.
I like heroes like Batman,Green Arrow
As for the rest of DC, dont like Wonder Woman,Super-Girl
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			<description><![CDATA[Scaryhead started the "Which DC hero do you hate as long as it is not one I like thread"!]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=spidey0vs0venom]I don't like Superman because hes not a relateable character. [/quote]

I guess it really depends on HOW you try to relate to Superman.  Many people like specific characters because they see much of themselves month after month in the characters they love.  For me, Superman is the ultimate loner.  He is in a class all his own amongst other heroes (power level wise), and until the reemergence of Kara Zor-El, he was the last of his kind in the universe.  In other words he is the definition of unique.  I think many people could relate to Superman on that level if they thought about it because I know that there are times when I think I am the only one around.  Just my opinion]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I could see that uncannyxmen.  You make a good point, Superman is a loner.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=scaryhead]i wanna know what DC heros that you just cant stand.[/quote]
Most of them.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Capekiller]Scaryhead started the "Which DC hero do you hate as long as it is not one I like thread"![/quote]

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			<description><![CDATA[I dont hate any dc heros but they have some terrible names. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[For me Superman is just boring. I don't understand why people like him. All of his comics are boring, and the movies are as bad as the first 3 Batman movies. Lets look at him closely: He is invincible and can beat every other hero or villain with his hands tied behind his back and his eyes closed. But when you read his comics the villains happen to stumble across his only weakness -kryptonite and use it against him. Superman overcomes the use of kryptonite and beats the villain. Over and over again. I just can't stand it. But if you like Supes -good for you it must cost you a fortune each month buying all his titles.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=asblade22]For me Superman is just boring. I don't understand why people like him. All of his comics are boring, and the movies are as bad as the first 3 Batman movies. Lets look at him closely: He is invincible and can beat every other hero or villain with his hands tied behind his back and his eyes closed. But when you read his comics the villains happen to stumble across his only weakness -kryptonite and use it against him. Superman overcomes the use of kryptonite and beats the villain. Over and over again. I just can't stand it. But if you like Supes -good for you it must cost you a fortune each month buying all his titles.[/quote]

Aw man, you must not have read a Superman book in a long time. Cuz its not like that at all. Supes cant do everything, cuz if he could there would be no evil or conflict in his books, and if you look at it, no superhero really loses or anything. You could make the same argument about Superman with about every other hero. And he cant beat every hero. Batman always whups that as$. And if you think Tim Burtons Batman movies sucked, then youe just pretty much crazy.

You should pick up a Geoff Johns issue Action Comics and figuer out why it sold out left and right, and stop bashing 1950s Superman continuity.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[There are quite a few DC characters I'm not fond of, but Supes tops my list.  I know, I know, I'm not helping matters, but I think the guy is too overpowered.  Also, I wanna qualify this statement by saying I don't have a lot of Superman comic history under my belt but in the limited resources I've read, NOTHING stops Superman!  Hell, A piece of Kryptonite was broken off in his body in the movie and the man STILL threw a mountainous piece of land into outerspace!  Well, you're gonna probably argue thats the movie and not continuity, but tell me how is it that the Last Son of Krypton seems to have a power to counteract every situation?  Now, lets talk about Batman.  Love the character!  I think he's amazing, however, there is one thing about Batman that really gets my panties in a bunch...How is it that he and Superman are able to fight the same villains and Batman's attacks are just as effective or how is it that they can attack the same villains, and Batman takes the exact same amount of damage as Superman?!  Thats my only problem with Bats.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote]There are quite a few DC characters I'm not fond of, but Supes tops my list. I know, I know, I'm not helping matters, but I think the guy is too overpowered. Also, I wanna qualify this statement by saying I don't have a lot of Superman comic history under my belt but in the limited resources I've read, NOTHING stops Superman! Hell, A piece of Kryptonite was broken off in his body in the movie and the man STILL threw a mountainous piece of land into outerspace! Well, you're gonna probably argue thats the movie and not continuity, but tell me how is it that the Last Son of Krypton seems to have a power to counteract every situation? Now, lets talk about Batman. Love the character! I think he's amazing, however, there is one thing about Batman that really gets my panties in a bunch...How is it that he and Superman are able to fight the same villains and Batman's attacks are just as effective or how is it that they can attack the same villains, and Batman takes the exact same amount of damage as Superman?! Thats my only problem with Bats.
[/quote]

The movie is not a true depiction of the man of steel.  As probably one of the foremost suthorities of Superman in CCL, been a fan since I was 5, 23 years now, the current rendition of Supes does have a few weaknesses.  He is just like you or me when it comes to magic, which he has been experiencing a lot here lately.  A red sun counteracts all of his powers and can make him human along with the normal Kryptonite.  Also, as we saw with the original fight with Doomsday, using his powers alot fighting against someone very powerful, can deplete his store of yellow solar radition and basicly drain his batteries before he can recharge them.  ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=TheBrave_TheBold][quote=asblade22]For me Superman is just boring. I don't understand why people like him. All of his comics are boring, and the movies are as bad as the first 3 Batman movies. Lets look at him closely: He is invincible and can beat every other hero or villain with his hands tied behind his back and his eyes closed. But when you read his comics the villains happen to stumble across his only weakness -kryptonite and use it against him. Superman overcomes the use of kryptonite and beats the villain. Over and over again. I just can't stand it. But if you like Supes -good for you it must cost you a fortune each month buying all his titles.[/quote]

Aw man, you must not have read a Superman book in a long time. Cuz its not like that at all. Supes cant do everything, cuz if he could there would be no evil or conflict in his books, and if you look at it, no superhero really loses or anything. You could make the same argument about Superman with about every other hero. And he cant beat every hero. Batman always whups that as$. And if you think Tim Burtons Batman movies sucked, then youe just pretty much crazy.

You should pick up a Geoff Johns issue Action Comics and figuer out why it sold out left and right, and stop bashing 1950s Superman continuity.[/quote]

I don't think I will take up your advice somehow. You are right I don't read Superman anymore and it seem that I am not the only one -DC just turned me off him. In most cases heroes and villains alike -niether lose. You might think your favourite has won but in an issue or two down the track the villain is back again and often more powerful than before because he/she has learnt from his/her mistakes.

I don't think I am crazy I have seen all the Batman movies and the first three are pretty hopeless. The Batman Begins movie is fantastic because it captures the dark side of Batman. Say maybe you can't see these things because your glasses are all fogged up. "Hey is that you Clark". "I haven't seen you in any phonebooths lately!"]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Superman is boring...most of what he does is save people(not alot of villains beside lex luther).... although he has been kinda groing on me in JlA/Hitman where he talks of how he missed a victim in space and that guy ended up dying thinkin superman is going to let me die!!! That was touching 8-[ ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:08:28 GMT</pubDate>
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