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Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:59:45 GMT

..we're expecting you....OK, apologies for the Love Boat reference. So, my suggestion for a history forum has been accepted. Woo-hoo! =d> Now, what my goal is, is to have a place where we can discuss not only the history of comics, but how they relate to the events of history. I got the idea between epcomic's fact of the day thread, and while poking around on superdickery.com, particularly the propaganda section. I'll be starting up a few threads to get things rolling.

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Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:08:44 GMT

Good idea, my LCS has a Comic Talk every friday, so it sounds like fun.

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Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:13:51 GMT

That's cool. My LCS is more or less just conversations among who ever is there at the time, nothing formal, or even semi-formal like that. Be sure to post any interesting topics that get discussed there here.

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Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:02:11 GMT

Ok, i'm actually gonna try and go this Friday with a friend of mine, so if I hear anything really good i'll post it here.

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Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:56:35 GMT

thisll be a good forum me thinks. can talk about history etc. like how politics shaped comics.

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Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:01:41 GMT

[quote=demented_taylor]thisll be a good forum me thinks. can talk about history etc. like how politics shaped comics.[/quote] That's the idea all righty. I've got another topic to post up too...

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Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:00:26 GMT

Back in my college days, I took a course called History and Popular Culture. We had to read a lot of comics, watch old serials, cartoons and TV shows, then discuss how the stories and characters reflected the times. One day the prof asked if anyone knew anything about Wonder Woman (this was before the TV show) and I gave an impromtu lecture that took up most of the class that day. That was a tough couse!

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Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:34:37 GMT

[quote=TimCraig]Back in my college days, I took a course called History and Popular Culture. We had to read a lot of comics, watch old serials, cartoons and TV shows, then discuss how the stories and characters reflected the times. One day the prof asked if anyone knew anything about Wonder Woman (this was before the TV show) and I gave an impromtu lecture that took up most of the class that day. That was a tough couse![/quote] I took a couple of course like that. One was about images of various people in pop media (movies, books, and comics), and one was a history of Baseball which had a mandatory "field trip" to Fenway for a game. Also had one on Vietnam which involved several movies from various periods and how they related to the perceptions of Vietnam and what was going on.

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Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:35:04 GMT

Funny how the Math Department at my U. never offered classes like that. Stupid math............. I did however spend 40 minutes yesterday talking to my class about the WWH and Planet Hulk storyline (as we were discussing the difference between vengence and justice.)

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Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:58:47 GMT

[quote=Capekiller]Funny how the Math Department at my U. never offered classes like that. Stupid math............. I did however spend 40 minutes yesterday talking to my class about the WWH and Planet Hulk storyline (as we were discussing the difference between vengence and justice.)[/quote] Cool!=p~ What did they think?

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Sun, 16 Sep 2007 07:22:46 GMT

I think they were pretty impressed. You can't please everyone all the time, but I ham it up quiet a bit and they really like that.

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Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:32:38 GMT

where were you when I was in school???#-o

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Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:14:07 GMT

[quote=jamnloki]where were you when I was in school???#-o [/quote] [color=darkblue][i][b]Exactly! In my day it was just your basic subjects plus french :-& Nowadays you can take courses on just about anything and the teachers/lecturers wll quote or cite numerous movies/books/comics/tv series. I would love to go back to school and study courses like Star Trek or Neil Gaimans Sandman. I think I would actually pass these! :-k [/b][/i][/color]

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Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:42:15 GMT

there asn't been a post here since oct of 2007

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Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:28:06 GMT

Guess everyone lost interest......LOL

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Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:31:41 GMT

I am interested, my guess is that this forum got buried behind everything else, because I have spent some hours poking around this site and this is the first I have seen of it.

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Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:34:25 GMT

[quote=DrFeelgood]Good idea, my LCS has a Comic Talk every friday, so it sounds like fun.[/quote] in taylor right ive been tryin to go there man but yeah thats another story . anyhow man good to find a detroiter

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Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:22:56 GMT

This has nothing to do with with what has been previously stated on this site. I just think that since we're talking history, I find it really very interesting that back in the golden age we portrayed "our enemies" as these cartoony, funny, bumbling, idiots that could be easily defeated by just showing up, and since we were on the side of the angels we win. I I think that the image of Tojo with big slanted eyes and glasses, cheesy mustache,in his Imperial Army uniform created by comic artists, helped to perpetuate a stereo type of asian people that has lasted to the present day. So comics really can influence not just the fans but a nation as well. What do you think?

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Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:36:40 GMT

[quote=JRaup]..we're expecting you....OK, apologies for the Love Boat reference. So, my suggestion for a history forum has been accepted. Woo-hoo! =d> Now, what my goal is, is to have a place where we can discuss not only the history of comics, but how they relate to the events of history. I got the idea between epcomic's fact of the day thread, and while poking around on superdickery.com, particularly the propaganda section. I'll be starting up a few threads to get things rolling.[/quote] the love boat, soon we'll be making another run, the love boat, promises something for everyone

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Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:31:02 GMT

[quote=loganzak]there asn't been a post here since oct of 2007 [/quote] That is because this is JRAUP's forum. Dude is suspect, I'm telling ya!!!

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Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:31:10 GMT

[quote=Capekiller][quote=loganzak]there asn't been a post here since oct of 2007 [/quote] That is because this is JRAUP's forum. Dude is suspect, I'm telling ya!!![/quote] Suspected, but never convicted! >:) The biggest problem here is all the Marvel fan-boys whose intellect is rivaled by that of a bag of frozen peas! So getting a meaningful discussion going is often fruitless...

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Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:37:38 GMT

Hey as a large marvel fan myself... I challenge you to a mental duel!!! (...as long as it is something I know)

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Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:17:52 GMT

[quote=JRaup]..we're expecting you....OK, apologies for the Love Boat reference. So, my suggestion for a history forum has been accepted. Woo-hoo! =d> Now, what my goal is, is to have a place where we can discuss not only the history of comics, but how they relate to the events of history. I got the idea between epcomic's fact of the day thread, and while poking around on superdickery.com, particularly the propaganda section. I'll be starting up a few threads to get things rolling.[/quote] Actually, JR, you were supposed to start "up a [b]few[/b] threads to get things rolling". We have all been waiting for you to layout a framework for these discussions, and how you would like your thread run. So you're Marvel fan-boy excuse has no merit.

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Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:10:02 GMT

History of comics:-k All I can say is "Obadia Oldbuck" Discuss amongst yourselves:-w

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Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:26:51 GMT

Not sure if any one is interested but I read a great book about comics in the 40's 50's and 60's and the struggles they faced. It is called "The Ten Cent Plague: The Great Comic Book Scare and How It Changed America" by David Hadju. It was a real eye opener to read about the crap that went on and struggles of the comic book industry. It also made me angry to know that they had organized comic book burnings. :~<

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Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:43:16 GMT

[quote=fenix1977]Not sure if any one is interested but I read a great book about comics in the 40's 50's and 60's and the struggles they faced. It is called "The Ten Cent Plague: The Great Comic Book Scare and How It Changed America" by David Hadju. It was a real eye opener to read about the crap that went on and struggles of the comic book industry. It also made me angry to know that they had organized comic book burnings. :~< [/quote] All that money up in smoke........

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Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:08:46 GMT

i have a LOT ofmoney go "up in smoke"

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Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:40:45 GMT

[size=6][size=7]I think that it would be a good idea to focus on a particular era in comics and go from there. I have been doing some research on comics, particularly the Bronze Age comics and found that the bronze age had a lot of shift in themes, particularly recent issues of the times, including drug use, feminism, and even racism.[/size][/size] I have a website that describes the bronze age at [url=http://bronzeagecomics.weebly.com]Bronze Age Comics[/url] to see more info. Please visit and feel free to blog. I also have a free comic book giveaway you can sign up for, if you visit and blog.

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Sat, 29 Oct 2011 05:31:34 GMT

If you are talking the political history of comics, it begins with Fredric Wertham. Hendrikson and Kevaur really wanted these indictments of the comic industry to be on a par with the communist hearings of the time. My own personal belief is that the new comic code resulted in un-intellectual comics for quite a while, however they ended up creating a wave of creativity we have not seen in quite a while. Eventually, in the late 60's and early 70's, in order to tell better stories, both Marvel and DC bucked the CCA for a while. There is so much more....

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Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:02:57 GMT

For me, the early 70s, say about 71ish-75ish is my favorite era of comic books. Storywise; there was just so much influence going on in them. Vietnam(post-vietnam), Watergate, Cold War, post-hippyism, ealry phase disco, cheesey TV shows, sexual revolution, rise of advaenture fantasy (Conan (though originally from the 30s), Gor, type books and sci-fi were really taking hold in a big way), it allowed for some pretty nifty story-telling. I liked the art, in that it was still somewhat simplistic, it was still narrative. It was art that told a sequence of events. Today's comic art is awesome art.....but in my humble old guy opinion, it doesn't have the same narrative quality as the old panels. So all in all those early 70s stories showed some of breaking of the prior naivete (probably spelled wrong), but still had narrative art.

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Tue, 02 Jul 2013 05:49:23 GMT

Poliitically, I think you have to "Blame Canada" for the censorship in U.S. comics. It started in the late '40s, when two boys were playing with a rifle and shot a driver in northern BC. It was found out that these two teens read comic books. There was a whole debate about it in the provincial legislature and that went to the federal parliament. Frederick Wertham wrote about all this in a chapter in SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT. The upshot of it was that Canada passed laws against certain comics and imposed censorship on others. Some American comics couldn't get across the border because they were considered too violent. Looking at what Canada had done, people like Wertham in the U.S. thought this was a good idea and started to campaign for similar restrictions. Mind you--long before there was a Comics Code--every publisher had their own in-house code on what was acceptable and what was not. Some publishers were very strict and others were not. I think the Comics Code has become a bit of a scapegoat. it was a voluntary system and not every publisher abided by it. It was imposed by the publishers because the publishers were afraid of the government and of citizens' groups, that were a threat to the whole industry. We tend to think that the Comic Code forced these changes on comics--and bemoan the fact that they destroyed some great publishers. But it was really the American people--mothers and fathers and teachers and community leaders--who did this to comics. So they should get the blame. Or Canada.