Welcome Guest Active Topics
20 pages: First ... 14 15 16 17 18 19 [20]
scotteaves
Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:29:48 PM
Rank: Beyonder
Groups: Approver, Approver Moderator, CCL Feature Crew, CR-Guidelines, CR-Management, Guru, Member, Subscriber
Location: Hawthorne, NJ
Joined: 6/24/2008 | Posts: 6,100 | Points: 447,292
abydosorphan wrote:

Ok, so regardless of which of these options is decided, would they then automatically go down as a B variant? I wouldn't want to make it a either or option as undoubtedly there are sets out there that have both, no matter which we go with. Or would it be easier to just list Archive Boxes (especially since most sets from Rittenhouse seem to have them pop up at one point or another) as number 8 under the header title?

That way when the set has them, they're listed, and when it doesn't, we don't.


I'll run it past the Guidelines committee and let you know what the decision is.

Do you know of any sets that have both an Archive Box and Collector Tins? Are Archive Boxes are a Rittenhouse specific thing?

abydosorphan wrote:
Also, just to point out, shouldn't the fact that the Archive Boxes were multi-case incentives automatically rule out Factory Sets? Since they are generally considered a retailer incentive.


IMO - not really. I don't follow your logic. What difference does it make how the box was distributed?
ntkeith
Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:13:22 PM
Rank: Herald of Galactus
Groups: Guru, Member
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 4/16/2007 | Posts: 1,750 | Points: 146,231
They are ruled out as Factory Sets because they are boxes of sealed packs, not sets at all. They are the same art as a sealed box, just with a sticker marking them as the jackpot of all boxes.

Also, not all archives boxes contain all inserts. The big deal about a Women of Marvel archives box was that it contained 10 sketch cards instead of 1, and three of the artists were exclusive to the archive boxes. But when you open it, it is still sealed packs, you have to bust the packs to get the cards, and the pack coalition is the same as the rest of the boxes.

Also, while most are case incentive, there are random Archive boxes in normal distribution, most of the time because they make say 50 Archive boxes but don't get 50 orders for 12 cases. So the rest go in the normal cases, making them very rare but possible to find the same as a normal box. A variant of the box seems very reasonable for this.
You've heard the legend, now see it come to life! I Want More Comics
petebyrnejr
Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:53:30 AM
Rank: Watcher
Groups: Member
Location: Jersey Shore
Joined: 6/6/2007 | Posts: 814 | Points: 87,272
I think there may be more than one type of "archive box", which will only add to the confusion of this question. In sports cards, what ntkeith was just refering to was(is?) considered a "hot box", due to the over abundance of chase cards, and "hot packs" which contained only chase and no base cards. From what abydosorphan explained to me, the specific box(es?) being refered to in her post don't have packs, and contain nothing but all the chase cards in a particular set.
That's why when she asked me, I referred her here, considering that it is a "Promo" "Factory Set" of "Gimmick/Chase cards" where "Scarcity/Printing will trump this..." may apply. In my opinion, it fell under too many options to make a clean call without other input.
I'm the best there is at what I do. But what I do best isn't very nice.

I don't want EVERYTHING, just ONE of everthing will do nicely.
ntkeith
Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:44:44 AM
Rank: Herald of Galactus
Groups: Guru, Member
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 4/16/2007 | Posts: 1,750 | Points: 146,231
The term "Archive Box" is specific to the company "Rittenhouse Archives". My explanation of comparing it to a "Hot Box" like people call really loaded boxes in sports cards is just making the comparison to something some of us know too.

Everything I have known about "Archive Boxes" is that while the inserts may be different, I understand them to be the same as the boxes of packs. If earlier versions, say like the Stargate ones are different, then they should be treated differently. My opinion is for those that contain packs, so if they didn't contain packs, then a different answer should be found for those.
You've heard the legend, now see it come to life! I Want More Comics
scotteaves
Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:54:36 PM
Rank: Beyonder
Groups: Approver, Approver Moderator, CCL Feature Crew, CR-Guidelines, CR-Management, Guru, Member, Subscriber
Location: Hawthorne, NJ
Joined: 6/24/2008 | Posts: 6,100 | Points: 447,292
Sent an email to Rittenhouse Archives to see if they can provide an answer to what exactly is in an Archive Box. (Edit - Rittenhouse Archives has replied that ALL Archive Boxes have packs in them.)

the Guidelines Committee has ruled that Archive Boxes should be listed as a variant of a Sealed Box. Please add the appropriate information in both the Caption field ("Archive Box") and the Item Bio field (describe the contents) to identify it as an Archive Box.

Thank you.

abydosorphan
Sunday, April 05, 2009 6:58:31 PM
Rank: Vigilante
Groups: Member
Location: Alabama
Joined: 9/13/2008 | Posts: 86 | Points: 45,275
As for whether or not the cards within an Archive box come in packs or are packaged otherwise, I have no idea - I've honestly never opened one.

As for what they contain, as you can see in the link below - from a series other than Stargate - an Archive box from Rittenhouse contains ALL of the pack-inserted bonus cards for their respective series.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/24/archivebox.jpg
If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off. ~~ Anonymous
Support bacteris! It's the only culture some people have. ~~ Anonymous
Real friends stab you in the front. ~~ Oscar Wilde
scotteaves
Monday, July 06, 2009 9:21:05 PM
Rank: Beyonder
Groups: Approver, Approver Moderator, CCL Feature Crew, CR-Guidelines, CR-Management, Guru, Member, Subscriber
Location: Hawthorne, NJ
Joined: 6/24/2008 | Posts: 6,100 | Points: 447,292
Guidelines updated to reflect inclusion of "Reprint" within parenthesis to differentiate an original Base Set and a reprint Base Set.
The_Valiant_One
Friday, November 06, 2009 2:49:11 PM
Rank: Administration
Groups: CCL Feature Crew, Forum Admin, Guru, Member, Super Seller
Joined: 6/7/2007 | Posts: 5,099 | Points: 139,556
Shop at My Store
Guidelines updated to add the following update to the generic cover title for trading cards:

"The place for issue #7 will ALWAYS be the advertising sell sheet or advertising pack inserts (may be a single card size item or a fold out sheet)."

Irony: One year to the DAY I posted the Trading Card Guidelines.
Applause





Steve Boyd
VP/CCL

You can reach us by phone at (615) 264-4747 ext 103
and you can e-mail us at helpdesk@comiccollectorlive.com


Check out my official CCL YouTube show:SUPER MEGA COMIC ACTION NEWS AT MIDNIGHT!
patn2008
Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:30:21 AM
Rank: Watcher
Groups: Member, Subscriber
Location: Bakersfield, Ca.
Joined: 4/20/2008 | Posts: 641 | Points: 2,467
geez now i know why i dont collect cards you end up going blind deaf and dumb doing this but i aploud all of you but way too much work
scotteaves
Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:16:04 PM
Rank: Beyonder
Groups: Approver, Approver Moderator, CCL Feature Crew, CR-Guidelines, CR-Management, Guru, Member, Subscriber
Location: Hawthorne, NJ
Joined: 6/24/2008 | Posts: 6,100 | Points: 447,292
Updated to include "Policy on Quoting other Resources"
scotteaves
Monday, February 01, 2010 2:31:22 PM
Rank: Beyonder
Groups: Approver, Approver Moderator, CCL Feature Crew, CR-Guidelines, CR-Management, Guru, Member, Subscriber
Location: Hawthorne, NJ
Joined: 6/24/2008 | Posts: 6,100 | Points: 447,292
Updated "Gimmick/Chase Cards" section. Added "Unredeemed Mail in Redemption Cards" Section.
scotteaves
Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:07:05 PM
Rank: Beyonder
Groups: Approver, Approver Moderator, CCL Feature Crew, CR-Guidelines, CR-Management, Guru, Member, Subscriber
Location: Hawthorne, NJ
Joined: 6/24/2008 | Posts: 6,100 | Points: 447,292
Updated Characters section re: real/fictional organizations and character titles.
Users browsing this topic
Guest
20 pages: First ... 14 15 16 17 18 19 [20]

Forum Jump

Access

You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Main Forum RSS : RSS

This page was generated in 0.184 seconds.
(0.087 seconds)

All images on comic collector live copyright of their respective publishers. © Copyright 2015, MidTen Media Inc. GOLO241