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KnifeTricks
Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:16:45 PM
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freakdylan wrote:
KnifeTricks wrote:
We have officially started working on the CCL update. We're probably about 40% complete, but updating CCL is our top priority this year.


What do you mean update? The entire talk on the phone meeting was an all NEW system, and how they didnt want to just do updates. Has this changed, and if so why?


It will be an all new system. Upgrade would probably be a better word.

CrossbowComics wrote:
KnifeTricks wrote:
We are listening and we do care! All of our servers are currently cloud-based, and infinitely expandable. We are in the process of updating our website and collection system to be cloud based too. We have officially started working on the CCL update. We're probably about 40% complete, but updating CCL is our top priority this year.


Good to see you Chance & glad to hear you're working on things. You know what though, even if 4.0 arrives tomorrow, it's still run by the same people with the same policies. I'm sticking it out for a while & I'm sure many other sellers are too but some of us may have interest in running our own show before too long so let us know when that 100% is within sight.


Good to see you too. I think sticking it out is a good idea. Maybe I can get Joe to post some sneak peeks into what we're doing.





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Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:48:04 PM
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It'd be nice if you answered my question. My subscription runs out next week and I need to know if you are dropping the desktop software so I don't waste my money. I'll then be using Collectorz exclusively.
KnifeTricks
Thursday, February 20, 2014 5:04:32 PM
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Flagwaver wrote:
It'd be nice if you answered my question. My subscription runs out next week and I need to know if you are dropping the desktop software so I don't waste my money. I'll then be using Collectorz exclusively.


Your current collection will be copied to the cloud, and will be accessible from any computer, tablet, phone, or anything connected to the internet with a browser. The desktop software will still function, but it won't be a necessary requirement.





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Atilla2k
Friday, February 21, 2014 7:31:01 AM
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KnifeTricks wrote:
Maybe I can get Joe to post some sneak peeks into what we're doing.


That would be helpful for morale.Winking
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Friday, February 21, 2014 8:37:57 AM
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KnifeTricks wrote:
Your current collection will be copied to the cloud, and will be accessible from any computer, tablet, phone, or anything connected to the internet with a browser. The desktop software will still function, but it won't be a necessary requirement.


I think this a great move in general and fantastic especially for Mac users. Question of clarification: Will users who want to continue to use the software still be able to? Will the database continue to update there?
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Friday, February 21, 2014 8:55:50 AM
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Atilla2k wrote:
KnifeTricks wrote:
Maybe I can get Joe to post some sneak peeks into what we're doing.


That would be helpful for morale.Winking

I will second this. Please throw us a bone!
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Friday, February 21, 2014 2:34:43 PM
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It would seem to be quite a step backwards to lose the offline feature that the desktop software offers. I often lose a connection moving from store to home and being able to continue to use the software is vital. Cloud only will make it useless to me.
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That is why I want to know before I waste the money. The whole reason I came to CCL was the desktop software. I got tired of ComicBookDB being offline more and more frequently and wanted an offline option.
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Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:31:53 AM
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I haven't had or subscribed to the desktop software in years. A cloud based system sounds very tempting. I still lurk here because it's the only place on the web where I trust most of the sellers. I've never had a bad experience buying my comics from CCL stores.

As a used Comic Book market, I think CCL is unbeatable. As a collection database/software, I think CCL is abismal. It never truly met any of my needs. I sincerely hope that changes in the near future.

I've always loved this place and this community, but it's on life support right now and needs to come out of the coma.


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scotteaves
Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:02:24 AM
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HeroComics wrote:
It would seem to be quite a step backwards to lose the offline feature that the desktop software offers. I often lose a connection moving from store to home and being able to continue to use the software is vital. Cloud only will make it useless to me.


+1

I've never been happy with cloud based apps - they are slow. I'd prefer to use the desktop software and not have my collection cloud based AT ALL.
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Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:49:56 AM
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scotteaves wrote:
HeroComics wrote:
It would seem to be quite a step backwards to lose the offline feature that the desktop software offers. I often lose a connection moving from store to home and being able to continue to use the software is vital. Cloud only will make it useless to me.


+1

I've never been happy with cloud based apps - they are slow. I'd prefer to use the desktop software and not have my collection cloud based AT ALL.


Yeah, but typically.. can you not keep working offline and then all your changes just get synced up once a connection is re-established?

Like DropBox.


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Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:59:47 AM
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SpidermanGeek wrote:
scotteaves wrote:
HeroComics wrote:
It would seem to be quite a step backwards to lose the offline feature that the desktop software offers. I often lose a connection moving from store to home and being able to continue to use the software is vital. Cloud only will make it useless to me.


+1

I've never been happy with cloud based apps - they are slow. I'd prefer to use the desktop software and not have my collection cloud based AT ALL.


Yeah, but typically.. can you not keep working offline and then all your changes just get synced up once a connection is re-established?

Like DropBox.


Depends on the app. Being a Mac user, I'm very much in favor of the idea of a cloud based collection, but I'm hoping that users who still want to will continue to be able to use the desktop software.
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Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:21:21 PM
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scotteaves wrote:
HeroComics wrote:
It would seem to be quite a step backwards to lose the offline feature that the desktop software offers. I often lose a connection moving from store to home and being able to continue to use the software is vital. Cloud only will make it useless to me.


+1

I've never been happy with cloud based apps - they are slow. I'd prefer to use the desktop software and not have my collection cloud based AT ALL.


+1!
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Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:35:51 PM
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I'm always a proponent of owning your own information, or physical-based media vs. cloud-based or digital media.

So count me in on the side that prefers the information being on your hard-drive.
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Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:34:04 PM
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Agreed - I don't want to have to rely on CCLs servers or ISP to access my collection.
I can't even rely on my own ISP...
Cloud back-up would be good though, as would the ability/option to transfer to my phone/tablet.
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SpidermanGeek wrote:
scotteaves wrote:
HeroComics wrote:
It would seem to be quite a step backwards to lose the offline feature that the desktop software offers. I often lose a connection moving from store to home and being able to continue to use the software is vital. Cloud only will make it useless to me.


+1

I've never been happy with cloud based apps - they are slow. I'd prefer to use the desktop software and not have my collection cloud based AT ALL.


Yeah, but typically.. can you not keep working offline and then all your changes just get synced up once a connection is re-established?

Like DropBox.


As long as CCL offers that, yes. But will they? And, will the offline/online be a setting that can be changed? Or will it be based on your actual connectivity?

I deal with way, way too many cloud/web based solutions on a daily basis in IT. I've yet to find one that was an improvement over a client/server based system - they have all been slower.

Heck, when CCL went from the original software based Change Request system to the web-based Change Request v2 system, it almost doubled the time it takes me to submit a CR. Can't just tab through the fields anymore, adding credits and characters takes you to a totally new page (which is a waste of time when some type of popup could have been used), can't automate it for trading cards like I had done.
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I would just prefer to have access to my collection at my fingertips, wherever I am.

It would be especially useful at cons, when flipping through longboxes.

This is why I stopped using the desktop software when the wishlist was made available online/in the app.

I'd still rather having to maintain my collection rather than having to maintain the gaps, but there you have it.

Now I just have my collection listed in an Excel spreadsheet that is saved in my DropBox. I can access it from anywhere that has an internet connection (or cell signal) and the original file is always kept up to date on my laptop at home. I maintain my collection at home, but I never actually need to access that information when I'm home. It's when I'm out that I need to "check my inventory".

If I can't do that with the way the software is now, then there's no point in paying for it. I can still access the complete database for free online.

I dunno, I'm not that techsavy, but until CCL has an update that allows me to do what I've described, I'm not gonna bother. I'll just keep making use of teh online features that are cuirrently at my disposal (wishlist/market/database/reviews/forums)


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Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:09:58 PM
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KnifeTricks wrote:
Maybe I can get Joe to post some sneak peeks into what we're doing.


Please do!!! My decision depends on it. I need a reason to stay!
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Xylob wrote:
Agreed - I don't want to have to rely on CCLs servers or ISP to access my collection.
I can't even rely on my own ISP...
Cloud back-up would be good though, as would the ability/option to transfer to my phone/tablet.


+1

As one of a diminishing number of people who still use a desktop as their primary computer, I think going cloud-only is a bad move. What happens if the CCL servers are down during a large convention and subscribers can't access their information while trying to do some show-shopping?

I'm also one of those who are fine with how CCL is currently working... both software and website. I've been using the software for years and don't like change. If it's not broke, don't try to "fix" it.
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