1) Because there is no grading standard for CCL. That would mean that every store would have to grade according to a pre-set standard. And not everybody agrees on what certain grades are.
I have personally adjusted my grading standards during my years shopping here, and listing books here. I've seen how other people have graded books I've purchased, and from sellers whose opinions and judgement I trust, I've fine-tuned my grading.
I've received books listed as FINE that I would have considered VG, and I've received books listed as FINE that I would have considered Very Fine.
The language used to determine grades is very fluid. "Severe creasing." "Moderate creasing." "Minor creasing." One man's severe is another man's minor.
Not necessarily, there will be a disclaimer stating something to the effect that these are guidelines and not rules. Different stores have different standards and in no way is this CCL Policy. Just a general guide.
I have also adjusted my grading standards over the years. Sometimes I will look at a comic that I graded five years ago and wonder' "What was I thinking?". So what I'm saying is that grading is very subjective and even fluid and certainly not everyone agrees all the time. Doesn't CGC have a panel of Graders? If you send something in to be slabbed a number of different people grade the book and they take the average. If that's incorrect please let me know but that's been my understanding.
Pat is the Grade My Book Host. Feel free to work with him (and anyone else who might be interested). My 2 cents, for what it's worth, is that grading is sooooo subjective as to be almost worthless to me. As someone pointed out above, what one person sees as slight damage, another might feel is moderate. Since I'm interested in reading more than anything, as long as the book is readable, it makes very little difference to me.
I will certainly ask for Pat's help.
I'm not sure I understand the point of going to that effort. As Pat mentioned earlier, he has a link to his grading standards on his About Us page and there have been many CCL stores who use that as their standard as well. So why not use that instead of creating something new?
Won't be much of an effort. I can type something up in less than an hour, then submit it to everyone for nit-picking. Whenever a consensus has been reached then post it up. No problem at all and I have no problem offering my help.
Pat's grading standards are great and I respect his judgement. I will be counting on any contribution that he would offer.
And no, I don't think a strict set of guidelines here would be a good thing. I think it would drive many sellers away from the site, after a lot of whining about "this copy has THREE street marks, but only TWO are allowed in Grade XXX."
I agree. That's why I would make sure at the top of the post that it states implicitly that CCL Sellers are not bound by these grading standards. It is only a general guideline for informational purposes.
I think that it would be a good thing for the site to have a Grading Guide permanently posted. Imagine someone googling "on line grading guide" and CCL popping up on the first page?
This is a good discussion and I appreciate all of your input.