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Glory/Avenglyne 1B Chromium Options
padreglcc
Posted: Monday, March 31, 2014 8:27:45 AM

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Interesting. I've checked comibookdb, comics.org, Comic Vine, Mile High, and MyComicShop about this. All of those sites only list 1 chromium cover, between the five I've found both color variations. It's possible that this was just an ink variation when printing (which happens periodically when books are printed on multiple presses). Not really sure what to think or do about this. Have you uncovered any mentions of multiple chromium covers anywhere?

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padreglcc wrote:
It's possible that this was just an ink variation when printing (which happens periodically when books are printed on multiple presses).

If that's the case, we don't list them as variants.

Hard to imagine such a significant difference on a chromium cover though. That's a very specific process.

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Posted: Monday, March 31, 2014 8:46:24 AM

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SwiftMann wrote:
padreglcc wrote:
It's possible that this was just an ink variation when printing (which happens periodically when books are printed on multiple presses).

If that's the case, we don't list them as variants.

Hard to imagine such a significant difference on a chromium cover though. That's a very specific process.


Agreed. That's why I didn't want to dismiss it out of hand.

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Posted: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:24:08 AM

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monidaw1 wrote:
While we wait to hear what to do with the different color covers above a new question this morning.





Doesn't the title in the indicia get credit over the splash page version? Nailbiting

The database goes with
Re:Gex


Yep, the indicia should get precedent. My guess is that no one had ever bothered to look at the indicia on this... it was probably one of the titles imported when CCL began. Feel free to make a Change Request.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 4:29:33 PM

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monidaw1 wrote:
Same questions as the last post but pretend I just pasted a picture of 32 here and any other's that may come along in the next few minutes.


Add them as B variants. Second printing with DC Universe UPC box. These also have their own tag.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 6:45:42 PM

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monidaw1 wrote:
Same questions as the last post but pretend I just pasted a picture of 32 here and any other's that may come along in the next few minutes.


Add them as B variants. Second printing with DC Universe UPC box. These also have their own tag.


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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:56:47 PM
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While it's my impression that comics with the "DC Universe" mark in the UPC area were marketed outside both newsstand and direct-sales channels, it's never been clear to me whether they were printed simultaneously with newsstand and direct copies, or reprinted some weeks or months later. This "'Collector's Pack First Printing'" notation is sufficiently ambiguous to leave me unenlightened.

Does it mean "First Printing," as in, this Collector's Pack comic was part of the first printing of this comic? Or does it mean this Collector's Pack comic is from the first Collector's Pack printing of this comic, which is second printing of this comic overall? I'm still mystified.

Neither does the presence of the notation prove to me that it cannot be a "first" printing; if comics with direct covers and comics with newsstand covers, clearly from different press runs, can both be considered "first" printings, then it's not inconceivable that comics with the Collector's Pack notation and comics without the notation could both be considered "firsts."

Maybe DC is on the record somewhere with a statement about the status of "DC Universe" comics. If so, I don't remember seeing it. Does anyone recall seeing such a thing?

I would also be interested in information regarding the presence or absence of the off-sale color stripe on the top edge of the comic.
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Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:08:52 AM

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monidaw1 wrote:


How do you want the title for this one worded?


Is it this? http://www.comiccollectorlive.com/LiveData/Issue.aspx?id=9df8ee9c-76d4-4757-ac8d-49aa3a112f66

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While it's my impression that comics with the "DC Universe" mark in the UPC area were marketed outside both newsstand and direct-sales channels, it's never been clear to me whether they were printed simultaneously with newsstand and direct copies, or reprinted some weeks or months later. This "'Collector's Pack First Printing'" notation is sufficiently ambiguous to leave me unenlightened.

Does it mean "First Printing," as in, this Collector's Pack comic was part of the first printing of this comic? Or does it mean this Collector's Pack comic is from the first Collector's Pack printing of this comic, which is second printing of this comic overall? I'm still mystified.

Neither does the presence of the notation prove to me that it cannot be a "first" printing; if comics with direct covers and comics with newsstand covers, clearly from different press runs, can both be considered "first" printings, then it's not inconceivable that comics with the Collector's Pack notation and comics without the notation could both be considered "firsts."

Maybe DC is on the record somewhere with a statement about the status of "DC Universe" comics. If so, I don't remember seeing it. Does anyone recall seeing such a thing?

I would also be interested in information regarding the presence or absence of the off-sale color stripe on the top edge of the comic.


Back when I started submitting the DC Universe UPC editions I had to do a lot of research on them. Based on a few Internet threads and research done by DC collectors, it's been agreed that these are reprints. Some state as much in the indicia, but many do not. They were distributed after initial publication of the direct sales version in "Collector's" Multi-Packs. I remember seeing them back in the day at my local comic shop, as well as places like Toys R' Us.
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Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:54:21 PM

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monidaw1 wrote:


That's it. Big Grin

That brings up the next question.

How would you like the title worded when it gets a change submission submitted? Something identical to the indicia and almost identical to the cover's wording maybe? Nerd Enquiring minds want to find it again while letting customers know there be Turtles in the thing. Winking


Just what's in the indicia: "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Present Mighty Mutanimals Special"

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Posted: Friday, April 11, 2014 8:06:00 PM

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Thanks. Already made the changes to Knightmare #5. It'll be a little while before invalidating Warcry since we have to alert all those who have it for sale before we do so.

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Posted: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:19:20 PM

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monidaw1 wrote:
http://www.comicspriceguide.com/p-issues.aspx?kbwg7tcwEqh8jKKiOD0f8xHybK%2fIJIZ4pHtycXyLpSo%3d

cpg has a listing for a refractive holofoil wraparound cover. Is that and the original picture enough for a variant listing to be added?


Sorry, I forgot all about the original request of this thread. IMO, the color difference seems to be enough to warrant a variant, and based on Swifty's comments, I'd think he'd agree. Go ahead and put in the CR. We'll need to rename the existing variant so that the two differ.

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