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Highest grade for comic with water damage?

MoonKnight1
Friday, April 19, 2013 1:23:29 PM
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Is there a cap on how high a comic with water damage can be graded? Obviously, I know that severe water damage is going to be a really low grade. What I'm talking about is the smaller instances such as a corner or edge rippling. A lot of times I come across an issue that would be VF for example and there is a small water stain. Do I just knock off a couple of grades or is there a highest grade allowed for that category of damage?
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Friday, April 19, 2013 2:09:50 PM
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I could be wrong, but I believe that Very Fine is the highest grade a comic with water damage can have....according to Overstreet at least.
But it has to be verrrryyy minimal to still earn that grade.

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I've seen trace amounts up to VF+, that's what it could CGC for anyway. If you list a VF+ with trace water damage on Ebay they won't touch it. It's a pet peeve for a lot of people (myself included) because so many sellers don't disclose it or never notice it.

In general it's acceptable up to FN if it's minor, nickel sized or smaller & hardly noticable. More is allowed as grades go lower. You can have a lot of it in GD as long as the book is perfectly readable. If there's mold or ugly stains or it's badly warped then it falls more into the "readable with difficulty" category which is FR.

Over FN it should be disclosed, that's part of the reason I'm really pushing for CCL to have an indicator for added notes.



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I find the grading system posted by shark in the 'How to Grade comic books' thread useful when I'm grading books. It's tough, though, because the highest grade allowable on that system for water damage is VG, and that's just for a single drop. If a comic has minor water damage, but is otherwise in excellent condition, I'll usually grade it VG/F, but I'm sure I've rationalized myself into a higher grade here and there....
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CrossbowComics wrote:
I've seen trace amounts up to VF+, that's what it could CGC for anyway. If you list a VF+ with trace water damage on Ebay they won't touch it. It's a pet peeve for a lot of people (myself included) because so many sellers don't disclose it or never notice it.

In general it's acceptable up to FN if it's minor, nickel sized or smaller & hardly noticable. More is allowed as grades go lower. You can have a lot of it in GD as long as the book is perfectly readable. If there's mold or ugly stains or it's badly warped then it falls more into the "readable with difficulty" category which is FR.

Over FN it should be disclosed, that's part of the reason I'm really pushing for CCL to have an indicator for added notes.


Of all the comments so far, I would agree with this one the most.
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Friday, April 19, 2013 7:42:51 PM
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I was a little surprised when I cracked open a CGC recently, it was an X-Men 94 in 6.5. It looked pretty nice in the case but when I got it out I found a nickel sized spot of w/d on the back. Wasn't wavy but it had lost it's gloss & was clearly w/d.

I was almost regretting cracking it open but I put it on Ebay for $229 with the w/d disclosed & it sold in a day, so it worked out. FN+ has the same restrictions as FN by the way, just has fewer flaws, so technically I couldn't argue with the grade.



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