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BurningDoom
Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:35:20 PM
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Sitting at home this morning, lazy Sunday. Keeping quiet after a late night and the wife is in bed. So I made this list of what I think are the top 25 comic book villains of all-time. I kind of ranked them by threat level, I guess.

What do you guys think?



1. The Anti-Monitor (The guy destroyed multiple universes, can't think of a bigger single threat.)
2. Thanos
3. Darkseid
4. Dr. Doom (Some may think it's strange to have him above the likes of Mephisto and Galactus, but this is a guy that has faced and defeated both of those foes, among others.)
5. Mephisto
6. The Beyonder
7. Galactus
8. Dark Phoenix
9. Loki
10. Darth Vader
11. Apocalypse
12. Lex Luthor
13. Doomsday
14. The Hulk (Yeah, he's hero, but he's also just as big of a menace half the time and nearly unstoppable at that.)
15. Black Adam
16. Sinestro
17. Magneto
18. The Green Goblin (Norman Osborn)
19. The Joker
20. Ultron
21. The Kingpin
22. Reverse-Flash
23. Carnage
24. Venom (Eddie Brock)
25. Sabretooth
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My top baddies are:

Red Skull
Dr. Doom
Iron Major
Joker
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joker, green goblin, venom, carnage.

i'm a huge fan of the psychotic villain
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Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:57:48 PM
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Hank Henshaw has to be included on the list somewhere.
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No Ra's al Ghul?

I guess these are meant to be threats to the entire super-hero community--not just threats to one hero. And I guess the Joker has become so overblown that he now occupies that territory.

Also I don't keep up with the current comics, so I don't know what's become of al Ghul. But I thought he was one of the best things to come out of the '70s. As the head of a criminal empire, bent on making the world in his own image, he was the kind of criminal I wanted to see up against Batman. And he didn't have to appear in every story--he could just send an agent from the League of Assassins to do his dirty work. I never wanted to see Batman up against overly super-powerful villains or too many of the costume variety. I wanted Batman tangling with criminal masterminds in suits.

Gorilla Grodd was one of the best super-villains. Because he's an ape, because he has superior mental powers, and because he's a Flash villain. That put him in the middle of all the super-hero action in the DC universe. Maybe he was over-used, but at his best Grodd should have been a major threat to the world.

The other villain--also associated with Flash--and having aspects similar to both Grodd and al Ghul was Vandal Savage. This immortal villain was all the more amazing for having such a long history.

One of my other favourite villains is Shade. I guess he's a non-villain villain. I like the way that James Robinson developed him with his own moral code.
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Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:49:25 AM
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Mongul.
Along with Henshaw, he killed 7 million people with the flick of a switch.
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Body count is not a factor in how effective a villain is. If it were then any writer could have some villain destroy planets and galaxies to prove how bad they are. And there have been a lot of forgettable villains like that.

My criteria are:

How well-suited to the hero or heroes they are as a foe. There has to be some parallel and it has to be at least possible that the villain can defeat the hero or the hero can defeat the villain. If they are terribly mismatched, you don't have a good story.

How much longevity the villain has. Is he just a one-hit wonder or does he have some staying power?

What's the back story? What is it about this villain that should make me care?
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Xylob wrote:
Mongul.
Along with Henshaw, he killed 7 million people with the flick of a switch.


I thought about it. But then I also thought he really only had one big, definitive story. Lex Luthor seemed to fit better, for a Superman villain, and Doomsday actually managed to do what no other villain could do: kill Superman.
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Great list, Nate!

You've got almost all Marvel and DC selections (other than Darth Vader who I'm not arguing against but could be considered more of a movie villain) so how about some alternative press baddies?

Lord Saker - primary foe of the Elementals
Mr. Mind - wormy nuisance to the Marvel Family
Tujiro XIV / Pope Innocent XLII - immortal vampiric menace to numerous incarnations of Grendel
Shredder - deadly ninjutsu master and foe of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Malebolgia - demonic adversary of Spawn
Kid Miracleman - Holy Crap I didn't just see that, did I?
Mr. Gone - surreal, creepy antagonist of The Maxx
Rat Creatures - thorns in Bone's side
The Grackleflints - mystical menaces of Mage

That's all I can come up with for now, I'm sure you can think of more...

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The person that keeps eating other peoples food from the break room. When I find them..I am gonna duct tape them to a 747.
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fenix1977 wrote:
The person that keeps eating other peoples food from the break room. When I find them..I am gonna duct tape them to a 747.


Oh man, that crap pisses me off. Because they forgot to bring a lunch, now you don't have a lunch. That seems fair.
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The guy that put nipples on the bat suit.
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A villain who could of been up there. If done right. Would of been Mandarin. Thanks Marvel for making him a joke in Iron Man 3.

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On your list man, I think Green Goblin should have been before Doctor Doom... My reasoning for this is that Doctor Doom is a tyrannical despot and Norman Osborn is a Nuckin’ Futs homicidal maniac.
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Atilla2k wrote:
On your list man, I think Green Goblin should have been before Doctor Doom... My reasoning for this is that Doctor Doom is a tyrannical despot and Norman Osborn is a Nuckin’ Futs homicidal maniac.
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GG is small potatoes compared to Dr. Doom. A guy that has defeated the Devil and held the Power Cosmic.
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BurningDoom wrote:
GG is small potatoes compared to Dr. Doom. A guy that has defeated the Devil and held the Power Cosmic.


GG came back from the dead, killed the Skrull Queen to end the civil war, ran S.H.I.E.L.D./H.A.M.M.E.R./Thunder Bolts/ Dark Avengers, and various other evil groups to boot, not to mention he's been a thorn in Spidey's arse for years!Smug AND he's a homicidal maniac...
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Atilla2k wrote:
BurningDoom wrote:
GG is small potatoes compared to Dr. Doom. A guy that has defeated the Devil and held the Power Cosmic.


GG came back from the dead, killed the Skrull Queen to end the civil war, ran S.H.I.E.L.D./H.A.M.M.E.R./Thunder Bolts/ Dark Avengers, and various other evil groups to boot, not to mention he's been a thorn in Spidey's arse for years!Smug AND he's a homicidal maniac...


And Dr. Doom run his own entire country, not just a branch of it for a short time.

Dr. Doom also led various groups of villains.

Dr. Doom has been a thorn in the side of The Fantastic Four, Captain America, Iron Man, AND the entire Avengers for years.

And Doom is above petty homicidal rage. He is quite possibly the single smartest being on the planet, and knows it. However, his downfall is his own hubris.

But more than any of that, he's actually succeeded where other villains have failed time-and-time-again:

-He's overthrown his country more than once, and rules it with an iron grip.
-He defeated Mephisto for the soul of his mother.
-He created a time-machine
-He stole the Power Cosmic from The Silver Surfer
-He practically became god when he stole The Beyonder's power.

Don't get me wrong. I'm a fan of Green Goblin, too, being a longtime Spider-Man fan. But he's really just interested in political power and money. Dr. Doom is after REAL power.
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