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freakdylan
Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:29:10 AM

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Ok in the newsstand thread Bruce made a statement about finishing whats needed before adding anything new and it left me wondering.

Are we allowed to submit CR's without covers but for known variants. For example Amazing Spiderman Whitmans are from issue #165 - #192 yet several are missing. Am I allowed to add those missing issues pending covers.

Amazing spiderman had UK price covers from issue #1-120 can those be added as well?


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freakdylan wrote:
Ok in the newsstand thread Bruce made a statement about finishing whats needed before adding anything new and it left me wondering.

Are we allowed to submit CR's without covers but for known variants. For example Amazing Spiderman Whitmans are from issue #165 - #192 yet several are missing. Am I allowed to add those missing issues pending covers.

Amazing spiderman had UK price covers from issue #1-120 can those be added as well?

If you have any of those issues, then feel free to add them. Especially the UK Spidey variants. I've added the few that I have, but find the current market price and scarcity of these issues prohibitive to finding anymore personally.


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They can be added, but only if you have proof that they exist.



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comicscastle wrote:
They can be added, but only if you have proof that they exist.

Yeah, as Pat just said. Only add if you have an available scan. As I've detailed elsewhere on the forum, not every issue or title had UK variants.


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freakdylan
Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2013 10:27:49 AM

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icarus201 wrote:
comicscastle wrote:
They can be added, but only if you have proof that they exist.

Yeah, as Pat just said. Only add if you have an available scan. As I've detailed elsewhere on the forum, not every issue or title had UK variants.


Those 2 statements dont match. Proof vs Scan. I can have proof with out a scan.

Amazing Spiderman UK Variant Issues:
#1-17 have a printed 9d cover price
#18 had a 9d cover stamp
#19-27 have an 10d cover stamp
#28-55 have a printed 10d cover price
#56-70 have a 1/- cover stamp
#71 is the start of a printed 1/- cover price up until #101
#102 (double size) has a printed 8p cover price
#103-120 printed 6p cover price

#121 to #214 only have the American cents price on the cover.

As to whitmans my backup source on all CRs has been bip comics which helped CCL conclude which issues were whitmans and when it ended. I have added the 1st issue as well as last but cant I use previous CRs info from bips to fill in gaps.

Also when CR is added with no scan is a specific "no cover" image required.


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Now should UK comics "Stamped" with a price instead of printed price on the cover be considered a "True UK" price variant or a treated as a standard comic with either a date or store stamp instead.

Just When You Thought It Was Safe To Collect Again --- VARIANTS STRIKE!



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I may be missing something, but I don't think the system will allow an addition without a cover scan. I've tried to add issues to titles that are in Overstreet, for example, but the system wouldn't allow it because I didn't have a cover scan. Which is weird, because some listings in the DB don't have cover scans.
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freakdylan wrote:


Also when CR is added with no scan is a specific "no cover" image required.


I would be game to go along with this until an image can be submitted for verification but what if some of the images you can only find off of "Other" sites and some have their logo on the image what can we do about those as it would not be prudent to use their image with their logo.

Just When You Thought It Was Safe To Collect Again --- VARIANTS STRIKE!



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Thundercron wrote:
I may be missing something, but I don't think the system will allow an addition without a cover scan. I've tried to add issues to titles that are in Overstreet, for example, but the system wouldn't allow it because I didn't have a cover scan. Which is weird, because some listings in the DB don't have cover scans.


Them be the naughty covers Devil They have a generic image for those

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freakdylan
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BruceReville wrote:
Thundercron wrote:
I may be missing something, but I don't think the system will allow an addition without a cover scan. I've tried to add issues to titles that are in Overstreet, for example, but the system wouldn't allow it because I didn't have a cover scan. Which is weird, because some listings in the DB don't have cover scans.


Them be the naughty covers Devil They have a generic image for those


They also have some comics that dont have images, cant remember off top of head but seen them. lol


freakdylan
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found one Deadpool 1J




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Thundercron wrote:
I may be missing something, but I don't think the system will allow an addition without a cover scan. I've tried to add issues to titles that are in Overstreet, for example, but the system wouldn't allow it because I didn't have a cover scan. Which is weird, because some listings in the DB don't have cover scans.


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Thanks swift


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BruceReville wrote:
Now should UK comics "Stamped" with a price instead of printed price on the cover be considered a "True UK" price variant or a treated as a standard comic with either a date or store stamp instead.
No, books with a stamped price are not variants as anyone can stamp a price on a book. The price must be printed on the cover.



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Thundercron wrote:
Which is weird, because some listings in the DB don't have cover scans.


I lot of titles were populated without complete cover scans when the database was set up in the beginning.






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freakdylan wrote:
icarus201 wrote:
comicscastle wrote:
They can be added, but only if you have proof that they exist.

Yeah, as Pat just said. Only add if you have an available scan. As I've detailed elsewhere on the forum, not every issue or title had UK variants.


Those 2 statements dont match. Proof vs Scan. I can have proof with out a scan.
Amazing Spiderman UK Variant Issues:
#1-17 have a printed 9d cover price
#18 had a 9d cover stamp
#19-27 have an 10d cover stamp
#28-55 have a printed 10d cover price
#56-70 have a 1/- cover stamp
#71 is the start of a printed 1/- cover price up until #101
#102 (double size) has a printed 8p cover price
#103-120 printed 6p cover price

#121 to #214 only have the American cents price on the cover.

As to whitmans my backup source on all CRs has been bip comics which helped CCL conclude which issues were whitmans and when it ended. I have added the 1st issue as well as last but cant I use previous CRs info from bips to fill in gaps.

Also when CR is added with no scan is a specific "no cover" image required.


What is your proof? A cover on another site or the book in hand?






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SwiftMann wrote:
Thundercron wrote:
I may be missing something, but I don't think the system will allow an addition without a cover scan. I've tried to add issues to titles that are in Overstreet, for example, but the system wouldn't allow it because I didn't have a cover scan. Which is weird, because some listings in the DB don't have cover scans.


Download these to your computer and then use them as needed.







What if no cover is available? I remember I had an issue to a short-lived Golden Age Western title that wasn't in the database (the whole title wasn't in the database). Once the title was added, I could only submit the one issue I had in-hand, and couldn't submit the rest without the covers.

I think Pat used his Approver skills and added the rest.
comicscastle
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Thundercron wrote:
SwiftMann wrote:
Thundercron wrote:
I may be missing something, but I don't think the system will allow an addition without a cover scan. I've tried to add issues to titles that are in Overstreet, for example, but the system wouldn't allow it because I didn't have a cover scan. Which is weird, because some listings in the DB don't have cover scans.


Download these to your computer and then use them as needed.







What if no cover is available? I remember I had an issue to a short-lived Golden Age Western title that wasn't in the database (the whole title wasn't in the database). Once the title was added, I could only submit the one issue I had in-hand, and couldn't submit the rest without the covers.

I think Pat used his Approver skills and added the rest.
Use the "unable to locate cover art" that Swifty posted right here.



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Tamwood
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Also, cover scans from other sites are ok, SO LONG AS THEY ARE NOT WATERMARKED. Mile High's scans are watermarked, and not usable. Same with Atomic Avenue and MyComicShop.

I take scans from other sites all the time, if they have better scans than are own. We'd much prefer personal scans, of course, but sometimes those scans aren't available, so we make do.
freakdylan
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Spider-Man wrote:
freakdylan wrote:
icarus201 wrote:
comicscastle wrote:
They can be added, but only if you have proof that they exist.

Yeah, as Pat just said. Only add if you have an available scan. As I've detailed elsewhere on the forum, not every issue or title had UK variants.


Those 2 statements dont match. Proof vs Scan. I can have proof with out a scan.
Amazing Spiderman UK Variant Issues:
#1-17 have a printed 9d cover price
#18 had a 9d cover stamp
#19-27 have an 10d cover stamp
#28-55 have a printed 10d cover price
#56-70 have a 1/- cover stamp
#71 is the start of a printed 1/- cover price up until #101
#102 (double size) has a printed 8p cover price
#103-120 printed 6p cover price

#121 to #214 only have the American cents price on the cover.

As to whitmans my backup source on all CRs has been bip comics which helped CCL conclude which issues were whitmans and when it ended. I have added the 1st issue as well as last but cant I use previous CRs info from bips to fill in gaps.

Also when CR is added with no scan is a specific "no cover" image required.


What is your proof? A cover on another site or the book in hand?


I dont have any proof, now. My point was comiccastle said "if you have proof that they exist" yet icarus201 said "Only add if you have an available scan" which are 2 totally different statements. I could go on ebay and probably pull half of the printed UK variants but most will be crappy pics or weird angles which wouldnt be appropriate to add as a scan. Yet it would be proof they exist, just with out a scan. Not to mention watermarked pics from other sites.

Also the CGC census has most of those printed issues in its DB but with no pics.


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