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Poll Question: Who wins in the Guardians' Prison? (Poll is closed)
Choice Votes Statistics
Metamorpho (Rex Mason) 7 46%
Wonder Girl (Cassandra Sandsmark) 8 53%

SHS 1, Fight 29 - Wonder Girl Vs Metamorpho in a Sciencell on Oa Options
LadyJay
Posted: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:28:19 PM

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SuperHero Showdown 1 – Fight 29
(Round 10, Fight 2)


Good evening everyone and welcome to SHS 1, Fight 29. This is going to be a tough battle in more ways than one; at the end of the match we'll be saying goodbye to another one of our managers.

Both managers failed to submit and received strikes; the 2nd for ComicUniversity and 1st for b0bafett. As a result the randomizer went to work and chose the fight 29 environment, so tonight we're visiting one of my personal favorites...A Sciencell on the planet Oa (Remember, when the randomizer chooses, ALL environments are in playDevil ).

A special note about tonight's environment...the description of this environment includes the sentence "Each cell was specifically designed to contain the villain and neutralize his/her/its powers." It's up to the managers to debate what that means when there are two fighters in a cell, the mods will not render any additional clarification on this aspect of the environment.

Appearing in the Sciencell are Metamorpho (Rex Mason), the sole remaining member of Comic University's Drake's Dudes and Dudettes, and Wonder Girl (Casandra Sandsmark), the only member of b0bafett's team left alive in the competition.

Shake hands in the center of the cell fellows, then return to your corners and be ready to come out fighting at the sound of the bell....

(click on the images to navigate to the bio links)


Visiting Team: Drake's Dudes and Dudettes
Manager: Comic University (4–1–0–0–3)
Fighter: Metamorpho (Rex Mason)




VS.

Home Team: The Unnamed Ones
Manager: b0bafett (1–0-1–2–3)
Fighter: Wonder Girl (Cassandra Sandsmark)









Environment: A Sciencell on Oa








You and your opponent find yourselves confined within a Sciencell on the planet Oa. Sciencells are nearly impenetrable prison cells designed to neutralize the powers of the beings they contain. The environment is restricted to the interior of the cell.


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* The winner merely has to subdue his/her opponent. It is not a fight to the death. Wrapping somebody up, possessing them, kill your opponent, knock them out, render them incapable of fighting anymore and so on all count as victory. All a character has to do is prevent their opponent from being able to continue the fight. A fighter forced out of the environment is not considered subdued. However a fighter who himself teleports away from a fight or flees in any manner is considered defeated.



* Where do fights begin?
a.) fighters begin the battle entering at opposite ends of the environment. (In a confined environment with only one entrance it will be assumed that they are transported to opposite ends of the area)
b. fights last for 24 hours
c.) fighters are fully aware that they are involved in a fight with their opponent.
d.) fighters then seek each other out. In a cell that is not so much a problem. In an open area it becomes a bit more difficult.
* The power(s) that a character takes into a fight are their current powers unless stated otherwise in the fight listings.


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As a reminder, here are the voting rules:

* Anybody can vote (competitors, spectators, etc.)
* CCL'ers are permitted to vote once per fight (including team managers.) If you have multiple CCL accounts, you may only vote from one of those accounts. To ensure fairness, multiple CCL users that live under the same roof should designate one person as the voter. This eliminates the possibility of "block" voting. (Ask us for clarification, if this is unclear to you.)
* Please consider all logical factors when voting (environment, rationales, current power levels.)
* Feel free to comment on why you voted the way you did, or why you disagree/agree with somebody else’s rationale.
* It is a good rule of thumb to hear from both managers before voting. All votes are final, even if you accidentally push the wrong button!
* While we invite and encourage all CCL members to participate in the tournament, we do ask that new members refrain from voting the first day they sign up for CCL. The intent of this rule is to discourage people from turning the game into a popularity contest by signing up just to vote in a friend’s fight.

* The SuperHero Showdown Forum is a sub-section of the Comic Collector Live Forums and as such is subject to the forum rules and terms of service. Violations of the voting rules, particularly those relating to fairness and good sportsmanship are subject to disciplinary action in the same manner as violations of any other forum rules. These actions can range from warnings up to and including suspension from the forums. Actions taken in response to violations will be determined on a case by case basis after an evaluation of the circumstances and the severity of the violation.


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SuperHero Showdown 1 is sponsored by Alpha Comics and Comic Collector Live



b0bafett
Posted: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:35:32 PM

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Well this should be a easy win for wonder girl in this is why.

We are both teleported into a Sciencell on the Planet Oa. As you can see below both these fighters powers are neutralize. So Rex has nothing where wonder girl would still have her lasso & braclets since they where teleported into the cells in not put there by the guards.


You and your opponent find yourselves confined within a Sciencell on the planet Oa. Sciencells are nearly impenetrable prison cells designed to neutralize the powers of the beings they contain. The environment is restricted to the interior of the cell.
comicuniversity
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Unfortunately for Wonder Girl, Rex's natural State is the combination of every chemical and element existing in the known universe.

While he may not be able to use his powers as proficiently as otherwise here in the sciencell, he would certainly be a durable and strong character.

Cassie would just be a 100 pound girl. She wouldnt have ANY of her super strength. She would just be a 100 pound girl. Just by mass alone Metamorpho would defeat her.


Big strong guy versus 100 pound girl. In a small prison cell sized environment.
comicuniversity
Posted: Sunday, October 07, 2012 7:35:28 AM
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b0bafett wrote:
Well this should be a easy win for wonder girl in this is why.

We are both teleported into a Sciencell on the Planet Oa. As you can see below both these fighters powers are neutralize. So Rex has nothing where wonder girl would still have her lasso & braclets since they where teleported into the cells in not put there by the guards.


You and your opponent find yourselves confined within a Sciencell on the planet Oa. Sciencells are nearly impenetrable prison cells designed to neutralize the powers of the beings they contain. The environment is restricted to the interior of the cell.



Thelasso and bracelets might as well be hunks of metal and a rope to a 100 pound girl. Rex could easily just rip them away from her. He is much more powerful. His mass....even without shape and chemical changing powers is far greater than hers, as is his strength. His natural durabilities (being made of elements rather than flesh and bone), would be enough to dominate cassie.
comicuniversity
Posted: Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:21:40 AM
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This is, essentially, what this fight is:


Ray Lewis




vs.

Miley Cyrus





In this environment:


comicuniversity
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Metamorpho +1
Eville_1
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I don't think Cassie would be that easily defeated. Although Rex outweighs her she is advanced in Hand to Hand combat, combine that with the lasso and the bracelets and she is a contender.
Atilla2k
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Don't count Cassie out!Devil

comicuniversity
Posted: Sunday, October 07, 2012 9:03:40 AM
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Eville_1 wrote:
I don't think Cassie would be that easily defeated. Although Rex outweighs her she is advanced in Hand to Hand combat, combine that with the lasso and the bracelets and she is a contender.


Metamorpho has been around far longer than Cassie. The bracelets and lasso are a non-factor. Rex would just rp them away.

This is a big strong dude with differently elemented body parts that are super resilient who has justice league and outsider training (*by batman) fighting a 100 pound girl in a little box.






comicuniversity
Posted: Sunday, October 07, 2012 9:08:56 AM
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Atilla2k wrote:
Don't count Cassie out!Devil



Why not?


She is a 100 pound girl versus a 200 pound dude. At best for Cassie, they are equally trained fighters.

No powers. This is really a no-brainer.


b0bafett
Posted: Sunday, October 07, 2012 9:22:52 AM

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Ok lets see Wonder Girl has the following equipment

The Gauntlet of Atlas magnifies its wearer's strength by a factor of ten.
This making her stronger then him.

The Sandals of the God Hermes, this enchanted winged footwear gives its wearer flight and enhanced speed.
She will also still have her speed to hit Rex 100 times before he could hit her once.

Also with still having the speed it would be to easy for her to Lasso him subdued
ukblueky
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Doesnt the info on the environment say that the sciencell is designed to nullify the powers of its prisoner? Isnt each cell designed for only one prisoner? Are Metamorpho and Wonder Girl considered prisoners? Does one, both,or neither of them lose their powers in this environment?
I ask if they are considered prisoner because they just show up.One second they are not in the cell the very next second they are.Its not like they were tried by the Guardians then sentenced to be in the sciencell.

comicuniversity
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b0bafett wrote:
Ok lets see Wonder Girl has the following equipment

The Gauntlet of Atlas magnifies its wearer's strength by a factor of ten.
This making her stronger then him.

The Sandals of the God Hermes, this enchanted winged footwear gives its wearer flight and enhanced speed.
She will also still have her speed to hit Rex 100 times before he could hit her once.

Also with still having the speed it would be to easy for her to Lasso him subdued



In the sciencell, weapons are neutralized too. None of her paraphernalia would work.
comicuniversity
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ukblueky wrote:
Doesnt the info on the environment say that the sciencell is designed to nullify the powers of its prisoner? Isnt each cell designed for only one prisoner? Are Metamorpho and Wonder Girl considered prisoners? Does one, both,or neither of them lose their powers in this environment?
I ask if they are considered prisoner because they just show up.One second they are not in the cell the very next second they are.Its not like they were tried by the Guardians then sentenced to be in the sciencell.



If this is the case, then cassie is in an enclosed space full of asphyxiating gases (cause that is what Rex immediately becomes.


Metamorpho +1.
Eville_1
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Wepons are neutralized too?
b0bafett
Posted: Sunday, October 07, 2012 10:37:01 AM

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No it says

You and your opponent find yourselves confined within a Sciencell on the planet Oa. Sciencells are nearly impenetrable prison cells designed to neutralize the powers of the beings they contain. The environment is restricted to the interior of the cell.


Quote:
In the sciencell, weapons are neutralized too. None of her paraphernalia would work.


Wrong again since they are teleported into the cells only there powers are neutralized. When the prisoner's are put into the cells they take there weapons where in this case they are teleported so they would still have working weapons
comicuniversity
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Eville_1 wrote:
Wepons are neutralized too?


YEs.


I know that boba is quoting ladyjaye.....but how the sciencells work IN ACTUAL COMIC BOOKS is that they neutralize all weapons as well.

Any participant here that has read a comic with the sciencells in it can attest to this.

I am sick and tired of losing votes based off blatantly wrong information put foreward during battles.


THIS IS A FIGHT BETWEEN A 200 POUND MAN AND A 100 POUND WOMAN IN A TIGHTLY CONSTRICTED ENVIRONMENT.


and the 200 pound man is going to lose I am betting.

Ah well. it was a good run.
comicuniversity
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b0bafett wrote:
Ok lets see Wonder Girl has the following equipment

The Gauntlet of Atlas magnifies its wearer's strength by a factor of ten.
This making her stronger then him.

The Sandals of the God Hermes, this enchanted winged footwear gives its wearer flight and enhanced speed.
She will also still have her speed to hit Rex 100 times before he could hit her once.

Also with still having the speed it would be to easy for her to Lasso him subdued



EVEN if we give boba the completely false info. that her weapons work.

1) Guantlet of Atlas. magnifies her strength. Isn't that then considered a power. THAT would be neutralized. If that isn;t neutralized then wqe could say that a science experiment gave rex powers and they wpouldnt be neutralized either.

2) Sandals of hermes. Enhanced speed. she would maybe have enhanced speed but not the enhanced senses to go with it. She would smash her frail, 100 pound non powered body into a wall in this tightly confined space and splatter her non-powered body all over the place.
b0bafett
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Quote:
I know that boba is quoting ladyjaye.....but how the sciencells work IN ACTUAL COMIC BOOKS is that they neutralize all weapons as well.

Any participant here that has read a comic with the sciencells in it can attest to this.


Show me in a Actual comic book that a prisoner still has there weapon with them inside a sciencell. Also when I say weapon I mean a weapon like a lasso,gun,hammer, you get the idea.



Quote:
Guantlet of Atlas. magnifies her strength. Isn't that then considered a power. THAT would be neutralized. If that isn;t neutralized then wqe could say that a science experiment gave rex powers and they wpouldnt be neutralized either.



The differance here is the Guantlet is giving her powers, where Rex's powers are not coming from a item.

Quote:
Sandals of hermes. Enhanced speed. she would maybe have enhanced speed but not the enhanced senses to go with it. She would smash her frail, 100 pound non powered body into a wall in this tightly confined space and splatter her non-powered body all over the place.


She won't use the speed to run. She would use the speed to hit Rex unlimited times before he new what happen or lasso him.

As for Rex this area hurts him the most he loses his strength so you tell me how fast would you be able to move if you had a legs made out of concrete,wood,rock, pretty much he subdues himself since he won't be able to move

icarus201
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I'd like a clarification from the Mods on whether weapons are neutralized or not in this environment.


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