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Locutusatwolf359
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Are there any issues I need to read before this series. I haven't read an X-Men comic in ages but picked up this set. Thanks!
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Locutusatwolf359 wrote:
Are there any issues I need to read before this series. I haven't read an X-Men comic in ages but picked up this set. Thanks!


To the best of my knowledge you don't need to read anything else before HoX/PoX. Though Hickman's writing style is to basically make you THINK that you've missed out on a ton of issues before you read his stuff.
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Locutusatwolf359 wrote:
Are there any issues I need to read before this series. I haven't read an X-Men comic in ages but picked up this set. Thanks!


Nope. Because this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the X-Men of the last 45 years. It takes the names and general designs of those characters and does nothing remotely connected to anything else about them.

#notmyxmen
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Friday, September 13, 2019 9:23:42 AM
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SwiftMann wrote:
Locutusatwolf359 wrote:
Are there any issues I need to read before this series. I haven't read an X-Men comic in ages but picked up this set. Thanks!


Nope. Because this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the X-Men of the last 45 years. It takes the names and general designs of those characters and does nothing remotely connected to anything else about them.

#notmyxmen


Thanks, guys. I read this was supposed to be the "it" book and invested in 1st prints of them all. Maybe I'll just dump them all when I get all 6.Sad
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Don't make any sales judgments on my say so.

I'm the sourpuss in this supposed ray of sunshine. Apparently people are loving these books.* I simply don't get how or why and am generally grumpy towards it all. Plus, I don't like Hickman's writing style on any level - all tablesetting and never a meal.


*including this absolutely awful version of Sinister. "Yay, it's Gillen's campy version!" I hated Gillen's run.
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I followed Sinister from his first appearance when I was a kid. I'll read them. If I don't like them, I'll get all 6 of each and dump them.
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Friday, September 13, 2019 1:10:21 PM
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SwiftMann wrote:
Don't make any sales judgments on my say so.

I'm the sourpuss in this supposed ray of sunshine.

Yeah, you are. Big Hug


SwiftMann wrote:
Apparently people are loving these books.*

I am, and I haven't read X-Men regularly since the end of Necrosha.

SwiftMann wrote:
*including this absolutely awful version of Sinister. "Yay, it's Gillen's campy version!" I hated Gillen's run.

Do NOT like this version of Sinister. I wasn't reading when Gillen was writing... that's where he came from?! Not cool!
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It all feels like Just Image DC Creating X-Men to me.
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Friday, September 13, 2019 2:42:42 PM
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padreglcc wrote:
SwiftMann wrote:
Don't make any sales judgments on my say so.

I'm the sourpuss in this supposed ray of sunshine.

Yeah, you are. Big Hug


SwiftMann wrote:
Apparently people are loving these books.*

I am, and I haven't read X-Men regularly since the end of Necrosha.

SwiftMann wrote:
*including this absolutely awful version of Sinister. "Yay, it's Gillen's campy version!" I hated Gillen's run.

Do NOT like this version of Sinister. I wasn't reading when Gillen was writing... that's where he came from?! Not cool!


I'm about to read every instance since Uncanny 221 if I can get the tears out of my eyes. Sorry for the drama but my step-dad just died of cancer and I was left here during the funeral by dkickheads by two members of my family and missed it. Rant off! I'll get to it.
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I'm about to read every instance since Uncanny 221 if I can get the tears out of my eyes. Sorry for the drama but my step-dad just died of cancer and I was left here during the funeral by dkickheads by two members of my family and missed it. Rant off! I'll get to it.

I'm so sorry to hear that. I'll be praying for you.
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It all feels like Just Image DC Creating X-Men to me.

Nah... if anything it feels like the New 52 reboot. But I'm trying to reserve judgment until the end of the series.
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House of X #5

Holy #$%&!!!!!! I loved every minute of it. I know Swifty will hate it, but he's wrong. I loved the tie back to Powers of X #1. I loved the world building. I loved the unexpected guests in the last few pages. Thoroughly enjoyed every minute.
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Hate it? No. It's fine, but it's still #notmyxmen.

Hickman has sucked every relatable aspect out of these characters, which again goes to my theory that it's Just Image DC Creating X-Men. Removing death as a deterrent (even a comic book one) is not a good move. That just turns everyone into Wolverine. That weird cult-like reintroduction Storm lead was really... weird and culty. I do hate pixie-pose Cerebro-Xavier though.
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Getting into it with folks on another site so, some replies I wrote from there that may shed some more light on my views on this book.

Being called a contrarian for the sake of it since everyone else "are loving what hes doing"
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Not being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. I do not like Hickman's storytelling choices in any of his Marvel work. I'm finding them particularly "wrong" for X-Men and this is too far a departure from what X-Men has been about for the first 40+ years (the dream of being accepted by society at large) and an extreme take on what recent writers have already done (X-nation).


To someone who said "It's been a very empowering story centering around the idea of 'no more'" which I genuinely find concerning.
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And I get what you are saying about the feeling of "no more" just finding "empowered" an interesting word. Especially as the resolution shown in these books is to a) manipulate those around you for your desired outcome and b) exclude/remove yourself from society at large. Neither of these, to me, are effective or moral responses to that feeling.


This is the first time its dawned on me that my problem with the last 5-10 years of x-books has been the general concept being flipped. Instead of the X-Men being allegory for inclusion (racial, orientation, religion, etc) it has just been in lockstep with the great political divide that's happened over the same time. Us vs Them and Them is always wrong and Us need to stay on our echo chamber. Instead of fighting against that, the writers and editors jumped in with both feet.
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I may not be enjoying what Hickman is doing with the X-Men, but one thing I never said along the way was that an issue was boring. Until now. This issue was a snoozefest. 16 pages of business dealings followed by 4 pages of nearly incoherent computer rambling.
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SwiftMann wrote:
I may not be enjoying what Hickman is doing with the X-Men, but one thing I never said along the way was that an issue was boring. Until now. This issue was a snoozefest. 16 pages of business dealings followed by 4 pages of nearly incoherent computer rambling.

Yeah, not my favorite issue of the series.
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SwiftMann wrote:
I may not be enjoying what Hickman is doing with the X-Men, but one thing I never said along the way was that an issue was boring. Until now. This issue was a snoozefest. 16 pages of business dealings followed by 4 pages of nearly incoherent computer rambling.


Maybe it's just because I'm only a casual X-Men reader (only read them when it suits me because my mom collects them), I just don't get the Year 1,000 storyline. Maybe it'll go somewhere, but there are only one issue of each series left. (Honestly, I could probably do without the Year 100 storyline too.)
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lcfrick wrote:
SwiftMann wrote:
I may not be enjoying what Hickman is doing with the X-Men, but one thing I never said along the way was that an issue was boring. Until now. This issue was a snoozefest. 16 pages of business dealings followed by 4 pages of nearly incoherent computer rambling.


Maybe it's just because I'm only a casual X-Men reader (only read them when it suits me because my mom collects them), I just don't get the Year 1,000 storyline. Maybe it'll go somewhere, but there are only one issue of each series left. (Honestly, I could probably do without the Year 100 storyline too.)

The Year 1000 storyline is completely Hickman created. You have as much info about it as I do being a 30 year reader of X-Men. I've found it (and the Year 100) storyline to be completely uninteresting and, to this point, completely pointless.
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HoX #6 - A big ball of fine. Felt like this could have been issue 2 or 3 though and not the end of the mini-series.
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