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MoonKnight1
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As some of you may know, I have been performing as a Background Artist (don't call me an "Extra"!) on the upcoming AMC show - Turn.

I had to sign a confidentiality agreement before being hired so I am not allowed to discuss any specific plot points other than what is already common knowledge. I am having a heck of a time even though sometimes it's exciting but a lot of the time there is nothing going on. I am always watching what's going on around me and it's quite enjoyable to learn about new things like how they film these shows and everything else that goes on 'behind the scenes'.

I do not want to get kicked off the set so I won't post any spoilers but I am allowed to talk about my personal experiences and I will be using this thread as my notebook. Who knows, maybe someday I'll be a writer for a show like this and these experiences could be invaluable. Pray

Thank you for reading this, I hope to entertain you. I already have a ton of interesting (I think) anecdotes. There's always so much going on that at times it seems like my senses are being overwhelmed by the organized chaos. Hypnotized

I also would urge everyone to watch the show when it comes out (late March/early April?). As soon as I know I will post here, of course.

*EDIT* Four Episodes now!!


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Thursday, January 9, 2014 10:53:22 PM
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Kevin McNally is Funny!

This guy is always cracking wise and saying inappropriate things. He's one of the few Principal Actors that actually acknowledge the extras. He will talk to us and joke around and makes sure to thank us for doing a good job.


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I like what they've been doing with my character so far. I've played a number of different roles in a myriad of situations. Here's what I have portrayed up til now:

Theater-goer throwing produce at Guy Fawkes
Bonfire Guy
Reveler with Lantern
Man Carrying Keg of Rum
Tube Deliveryman
New Yorker carrying raw chicken
Mourner
Villager in Angry Mob
Guy with Axe in another Angry Mob

So, my best guess is that I'm the town drunk.

Going in for re-costuming in the next day or two. Can't wait to see what they have in store for me next!


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I did not even know that they were making a show!!!!!
KEEP POSTING I MUST KNOW MORE!!

This is so AWESOME! I am so excited for you!!

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It seems as if the people of Setauket, New York are fond of forming angry mobs. The other day I was in my third such group in my role of Townsfolk, Core Group. Yes, I have been elevated to "Core" which means that I will be called upon more often. There are about 30-40 of us in the Core Group. They want the village to look lived in and as a viewer you get a sense that people actually live here when you see the same people in the background.

I was skeptical of our chances in the first angry mob. We were mostly old men, women and children "armed" with sticks, pitchforks, hammers and other common household items. We were charging uphill towards a church that had been fortified with entrenchments and a spiked log palisade and guarded by a platoon of Redcoats equipped with bayonet tipped muskets and two artillery pieces. Ouch. I had a bad feeling about it...

The second time I felt that our outlook was a little better. This time it was all men, about two dozen, and we had more substantial weapons. I carried a lumberjack's axe, several guys had swords or knives, we had a couple of firearms, two guys on horses and an ox-cart loaded with more bruisers. We marched on the Magistrate's house under the cover of night and he had only two Redcoats as guards. Seemed like we had the advantage.

Most recently I participated in yet another agitated group of townsfolk. We were approaching the same church as before but this time almost all of the men had either a musket or a flintlock pistol and in this instance we were using the women and children as human shields. What are you going to do now, Redcoats?!

Currently Episode 8 is being filmed. There are only ten episodes so it will be wrapped pretty soon.

Stay Tuned! Big Grin


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I've been seeing ads for this show the last few weeks. I'll have to give it a looksee.
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Episode 9 is filming now. It's only a ten episode season so some serious stuff is going down! They're using me a lot which is really cool, I should get a little face time.

I finally get to go to the sound stage! So far all of the scenes I have been in have been on-location. Either out in one of the counties or Petersburg. I have been to where the sound stage is for costume fittings but I wasn't able to go past wardrobe and only got a tiny peek inside. I was scheduled to be there a couple weeks ago but for some reason they never called me back. They only use a limited number of extras for the sound stage shoots and I am crossing my fingers that I actually make it this time.

Just remembered a story from earlier I forgot to tell you about. When we were doing the night time angry mob scene they were handing out torches to a few people. One of the interesting things about being an extra is that a lot of time there's nothing to do but just stand there. So I like to watch all of the little drones scurrying around carrying out their duties. And I get a behind the scenes look at how these things are made. The torches, for instance, are just a wooden stave with some kind of honeycomb thing on the end. They dip these into a barrel of paraffin so when it's lit the oil burns off without scorching the wood.

Well, in between takes the stunt director would take the lit torches and sub them out for fresh unlit ones. They would douse the flames and then dunk them back into the paraffin in preparation for the next take. So we're doing this serious, tense scene when we hear a sudden commotion from behind us and the unmistakeable sound of fire extinguishers. Someone had put the lit torch in the wrong barrel which went up like a , well - like a torch, then the barrel got knocked over and there was liquid fire spilling all over the place.

Now keep in mind that we were currently filming on Tuckahoe Plantation which is literally about 400 years old. They chose that location for the reason that the houses are authentic and they didn't have to build any additional scenery. Luckily everything was unscathed with the exception of a poor boxwood that needed an emergency pruning. It was pretty funny and I'm hoping that it makes the blooper reel on the DVD!

What wasn't funny is that it was freezing cold that night (as usual) and they shot that one scene probably 40 different takes? and from numerous angles. Kevin McNally (Magistrate Richard Woodhull) had to deliver the same speech over and over again. Every once in a while he would flub a line or something and then just crack wise or say something extremely inappropriate and everyone would die laughing. He is really funny. It is a pleasure watching him perform.

Next week is going to be a busy one for me. They want me for 3 days and asked me to keep my options open for a fourth day as well.

Cheerio!


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I was on set four days last week (usually it's only 2 or 3) and boy am I feeling it. The actual labor is not that difficult. Mostly we're just standing, sitting or walking around but the costumes are not the most comfortable and the shoes are difficult to wear so it is quite tiring especially when you're there for 10-16 hours a day. I am not complaining mind you, this is some of the most fun I have had in my entire life. It's not all giggles and rainbows but when I'm on set I would rather be there than almost anywhere else.

Anyway, I was called in special on Friday. I was not scheduled to be there initially but I got a little luck. In the e-mail I got from the talent agency it asked if anyone knew how to gut a fish. Well, I'm a professional chef so of course I can gut a fish and told them so. Apparently I was the only one who responded that had that capability so I was selected for a prominent shot.

Not giving anything away here but I'll tell you basically what happened. I was standing right next to the Director as he was describing what his vision for this scene was. (Quick aside, the Director was super nice to me. He had been running roughshod over everyone and dropping a bunch of f-bombs so I have to admit that I was a little intimidated. But he treated me very nice, put his hand on my shoulder, was asking me how I knew how to gut fish. I guess it was because I did exactly what he told me to do exactly the way he wanted. I think he appreciated that.) So it is an establishing shot. I don't know where in the episode it appears but it will either be in the very beginning or directly after a commercial break.

I am standing about a foot and a half from the camera holding a fish on a chopping board with one hand and a cleaver in the other. Real fish and a real knife. On Action the camera starts off to my right and slowly pans over to me while taking in a scenic view of our little village and the denizens therein. All this time I am holding the cleaver in the air preparing to chop the head off of the fish. The Director told me that on my cue I was supposed to completely sever the head in one motion. Now it took probably 20 minutes of him filming the background and coordinating everyone's movements so that he got the look he wanted. The whole time I'm standing there just waiting to whack this fish and he kept yelling "Cut" before I got the chance. The stunt guy told me not to worry, they had plenty of fish so if I didn't get it right away they could substitute another one and re-take. Well finally it was my time to shine! Everything in the background was seamless, the camera focuses in real close up on the fish and zoomed in on it's eye. I got my cue and brought the cleaver down in one fell swoop! Head - gone! Big gout of blood shoots out and I scrape the severed remains off the table and begin gutting the fish. Director yells "Cut!" then says, and I quote, "That was brilliant! Let's keep it." One take y'all and I nailed it!

The reason why I think this scene will be very early in the show is because of what the Director was saying when giving the Crew instructions. First, it's Episode 9 and everything is setting up for the season finale. A lot of crazy, exciting stuff happens including no small amount of blood shed. He wanted to give the viewer a foreshadowing that things are going to get messy. He was adamant about getting a baleful stare from the fishy's eye before the axe falls.

Next week we're doing the season finale and so far I've been scheduled for three out of five days with instructions to keep my availability open for the days I'm not scheduled. It pays to be reliable!


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Oh just remembered something else. The guy in charge of stunts is really cool too. After I chopped the head off he came over and asked about the blood that came squirting out. I told him that fish don't really have a lot of blood but if you get the main artery up close to the head then it looks like more. So he brought over another guy from the Crew and showed him the mess. Apparently they had a bet on whether or not fish bled! Dollars changed hands and I just stood there laughing!Laughing


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If I'm not blown away by your fish gutting scene, I'm throwing popcorn at the TV. Just a heads up.
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kisstour03 wrote:
If I'm not blown away by your fish gutting scene, I'm throwing popcorn at the TV. Just a heads up.

Understood.

I'll tell you who was blown away, my cats! I came home with fish blood and guts all on my hands and I made several new friends!


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My new character is Strong Guy.

No, not this one:


We were standing around on set the other day (a common occurrence) when the Production Assistant (PA) picks me out of the crowd. He pulls another dude out and then says, "I need 2 other strong guys". My jubilation at being labeled a "strong guy" was short lived when I realized that I had been selected to carry around a boat.

So for an hour we had to balance the boat on our shoulders and carry it about 30 feet before placing it on the ground. Then, we picked it up, went back to our first positions and waited until we were ordered to carry it to the same place and drop it off again. Then back to start, wait, and tote it around again. This was not a light boat. It was only a 12 footer probably but it was made out of heavy wood, not balsa. After that I carried around a box with rope handles and finished off with hauling a cast iron wagon wheel to and fro. All this time we were plodding through ankle deep mud. With flimsy shoes.

Ah, the life of a Background Artist!


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I don't want to be too nosy, but do you get paid for this? Do you get a better rate if you have a specific role (like strong guy) as apposed to just a background character? Do you ever get a speaking role? If so, are you paid more for that?


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Yeah, I get paid. I won't be able to retire on it Big Grin but it's money. We also get free food and sometimes it's actually pretty good.

There are occasional opportunities for a speaking role and it does pay more. I have applied for it a couple of times but haven't been selected yet. It helps if you are a member of SAG (Screen Actors Guild) but it costs money to join and I'm really not that serious about it. It's pretty cool and all that but I think I would rather break into the writing side of it as opposed to the acting part.

It's a cool experience anyway and I am enjoying being able to witness how everything works. Whenever I am not doing anything I try to absorb all that's happening around me. There's so much that goes in to the making of these things that I never even thought about before.

Now, when I watch TV shows and movies I look at them differently. I can't wait for the show to be on so I can compare my perspective with what actually airs.

We get paid by the day. So eight hours at Regular Rate, after that it's time and a half up until 12 hours. Between 12 and 16 hours you get double time and then there's the triple time for anything over 16 hours.

I have averaged 10-12 hours a day when I work. The shortest day was 8 hours and the longest one was 18. Yeah, I got there at 8:00 AM on a Tuesday and left at 2:00 AM on Wednesday.

That one was brutal. We were standing in mud puddles for the daytime shots and frozen mud puddles at night. It was a bonfire scene so we all kept trying to get close to the blaze but since the Costume Department had adorned us with straw they didn't want us to be near it. It took about 3 days before I got feeling back in my feet.

The last day of filming for this season is next week. I'm going to miss it but in a way it will be a relief. I have been so involved in it that I have gotten behind on a lot of things. They have already said that Season 2 will begin shooting in September if ratings are good so maybe I'll be back!



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It's official. I'm done with filming. The shoot wrapped yesterday and there are no more days scheduled. There is a possibility of being brought in for a re-take but I probably won't be called as all of the scenes that I starred in were perfect! Laughing

Season premiere is Sunday, April 6th at 9:00 PM EST in the slot currently occupied by Walking Dead. I'm not in the Pilot but please don't let that dissuade you from watching it. Tongue My first appearance should be in Episode 2. I will either be seen at a theatre throwing cabbage at Guy Fawkes, or building a bonfire while wearing a devil-looking straw mask or frolicking around said bonfire holding a lantern and mug of cider. Or maybe any combination thereof.

Of course if I see myself I will take a pic of the screen and save it for posterity. Even if it's only my posterior in the shot!

As the episodes air I will recount different stories about how things occurred from my perspective. I know what happens through the season finale but I will not give anything away. Suffice to say that it gets quite exciting at times, not everyone survives and there is plenty of action mixed in. I'm not saying this just to get you to watch...oh, waitaminute, of course I am! No, seriously, I think it will be a great show. I definitely would watch it even if I wasn't part of it.

This is the first of four different costumes I wore.

My basic character was "Townsfolk" and I also played "Fisherman".

During Episode 3 I was elevated to "Core Group" which meant that they called me more often (no extra dough, unfortunately). They wanted our village - Setauket, New York, on the North shore of Long Island - to look occupied. So they got a group of about 30-40 of us to appear more often so the viewer could believe that people really lived there. Apparently there were only a couple hundred residents and most of them didn't live right in the town but they were within a mile or two. We had plenty of newbies cycling in and out so you don't always see the same people all the time.

As a result of my Core status I only appear in a couple of scenes not occurring in or around the village.

One week from Sunday!!


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Turn got a bit of a write up in this week's Entertainment Weekly. Looks like it could be pretty good.
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Did anyone see the first episode?

I thought it was pretty good considering that I wasn't in it. Laughing

I did appear in the trailer for next week's show. It was very brief but if you pause it during the part where people are throwing things at the camera you can see me. So I'm pretty sure I will appear next week!

The scene is set in a theater and we are watching a play about Guy Fawkes. When he comes on stage we boo, hiss and throw cabbage at him. It was pretty entertaining and there is no truth to the rumor that the cabbage was served to the Extras at lunch.

It was amazing to me to see what our town looked like on screen. The whole area where there is water and boats is actually a large, grassy field with a marshy stream running through it. They added the rest through green screen and it just looks fabulous!

Psyched for Episode 2! Dancing


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I didn't realize the series started airing. I'm a history buff and have been looking forward to it. I just set my dvr to record it.
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Watch Turn tonight!

See my gripping performance as Villager Throwing Cabbage at Guy Fawkes!

If I am correct I might also appear as Bonfire Guy Wearing Straw Mask! There will be a speech by Major Hewlett (Burn Gorman) in the center of town and I am building a bonfire for the nights celebration. It's a harvest festival so we all are wearing straw hats and trinkets.

I have a great story to tell about the filming of that scene I will relate tomorrow.

Thanks for reading this and watching the show (hopefully)!


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Well, I'm not sure what happened with the scene where Major Hewlett gives his speech in the center of town. It's hard for me to imagine that it ended up on the cutting room floor, they put a lot of effort into shooting it. I think maybe during editing it was moved to Episode 3. We'll see. They don't tell me anything. Angry

Anyways, I was in two scenes in the first twenty minutes so that was exciting! Of course it was only for a combined 5-6 seconds of screen time. Laughing

The first one was about seven minutes in. I was wearing a hideous straw mask (more on that later) and I'm building a bonfire with help from other villagers. Unfortunately, some screen hog Big Grin walked in front of me and blocked the view.

The second time was during the Guy Fawkes play as previously mentioned. That was the first day On Location for me and boy did I get the wrong impression. To begin with it was a breeze to get there. Hop on the highway, 30 minute ride, the Base Camp was right off the highway, we had an actual structure with real chairs and tables to sit at while waiting to go to the Set, they served us food fit for humans, there was heat, I could go on and on.

Here I am thinking that this was the easiest hundred bucks I ever made. Man did they pull a fast one on me.

The Guy Fawkes scene was extremely entertaining to be a part of. It took 3-4 hours to shoot what with retakes and resets. Angus MacFadyen who plays Robert Rogers, started a trend of shoving people around. As an extra you want to have that chance to be in the limelight but when Angus was in a scene you saw people moving away lest they get thrown into a wall, er - I mean jostled.

The Production Assistants (PA's) were carrying around bushel baskets filled with cabbage leaves, carrot tops (no, not that one), onion peels and other various scraps of produce and urging us to grab a couple of handfuls. We then chucked it at Guy Fawkes, it got swept up and redistributed and then we chucked it again many times. There is no truth to the rumor that these veggies were served at dinner that day but it is quite possible that we got it for lunch the next day. Sick

The second day On Location for me was the polar opposite.

To get there took about an hour total. First part was easy, right down the Interstate. Then off to increasingly smaller roads until eventually you get to the property and you still have about a ten minute drive because it's located on a vast farm next to a state prison (*see below). There's just a single lane, dirt (read:mud) track from there on including a narrow stretch with a pond on one side and a 50 foot drop on the other.

I got there at 8AM on a Tuesday morning and left at 2AM on Wednesday Morning. Yep. Eighteen hours. It was cold, wet and windy - during the day. At night it was even worse. We went from standing in ankle deep mud puddles to standing in frozen, ankle deep mud puddles. I seriously couldn't feel my feet for three days afterwards. I soon purchased a pair of hunter's socks and under armor.

Having said that, I still had a heck of a time. Seeing the Town Set for the first time was amazing. All of those buildings are real, albeit hollow, but from the outside you can't tell the difference. The water wheel on the mill works (powered by electricity of course), they planted a bunch of stuff like gardens, etc. and there was a lot of authentic props everywhere.

The animals and animal handlers were particularly interesting. There were always horses around but also an Ox team (named Calvin and Hobbes), chickens, ducks, goats and sheep. The sheep dog was freaking awesome! She loved herding those sheep. That dog was super intelligent. And this is coming from a cat person. A lot of times it was very boring there but watching the dog corral the herd was a perpetual highlight! The oxen were very obedient as well. The handler just had to speak to them and occasionally nudge em one way or the other and they did exactly what he said. I don't think I need to mention that because of the livestock roaming around it posed an obstacle of a different sort.

I mentioned a straw mask earlier. This day marked the beginning of the Crazy Costume Lady's vendetta against me. (Hey, CCL!) It began when she noticed me wearing my glasses between takes. I know that I can't wear them during shooting and always take them off but she didn't like it that I put them on between takes. I can't see for squat without them so I put them on so I can see what's going on and also can tell if someone's talking to me. You could be standing five feet away from me and talking to me and I wouldn't know. So I hear her saying something to a PA about "the guy in the glasses" and next thing you know they slam some grotesque, devil-looking straw mask on me. No way I can rock my lenses with that thing on my grill. She plagued me throughout the season but what do I know. I mean all Donna Zakowska has is a Costume Designers Guild Award plus an Emmy for John Adams and I'm just some putz in a scratchy straw mask. Silly

It was seriously cold that night, literally freezing. When the Crew was re-setting cameras and re-positioning the Principals, the Background Performers were allowed to go into the fake houses to keep warm. There was no insulation and only a handful of propane heaters. One of the most surreal images I took away from this thing is the sight of 30 men and women in Colonial garb sitting on metal folding chairs inside of a facade and huddling around propane heaters. It was disconcerting to be sure. The cool thing about it though was we bonded a little (the ones who didn't quit) and that day became the stuff of legend. Even during shooting for Episode 10 newbies would ask for a retelling of the epic Bonfire Day.

The thing about the bonfire is that it was also manually operated. They could turn it up and down mechanically. We were freezing and trying to get closer to it when we were outside but it being a Harvest Festival they stuffed dry straw all over us. The fireman on scene kept telling us to move away from the bonfire but I think he was afraid we might throw him on the blaze if he tried to make us move too far away.

At one point around midnight (15+ hours in) a girl standing in front of me turned around and said to me, "I need you to hold me".

I stammered, "What?"

She replied with, "I'm about to fall down, I need you to hold me".

She started to slump into the frozen mud so I grabbed hold and made sure she didn't hit the ground. Fortunately one of the PA's was nearby and the paramedic was summoned. I'm not sure if she ever came back for more Calls, all of the women tended to look the same in those costumes plus it was dark and once again, no glasses

The Bonfire Scene also spawned one of the cast and crew's secret catchphrases of the show. During the night scene with the fire going you witness a Redcoat tossing an effigy into the middle of the inferno. The Director wasn't very clear at first how he wanted it done and as a result it wasn't performed to his liking. So he demonstrated how he wanted it done while shouting, "I want to see the f****r!"

From then on that was the go to line when anyone wanted to be able to see something!

Wow, just realized I wrote a book. I shall try to tell shorter stories in the future. Liar




* Once I accidentally drove through the prison to get there and you are allowed to do so. I didn't do it again.


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